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 Post subject: Re: More $$$ out the window to pals of Tom?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 3:19 pm 
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I don't think Hammond Residents should be floating another bond, and paying 100% for a company to enrich themselves at resident's cost.

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 Post subject: Re: More $$$ out the window to pals of Tom?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 4:25 pm 
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justcallmetommy wrote:
Buffalo Wild Wings is a franchise operation.... and gaining that information took less than 30 seconds Matt.

Hell Matt, I was thinking of opening a business called "Matt's Porn Emporium" getting $1,000,000 in funding from the city and the franchising out the site and putting the profit in my pocket.

Even the boys @ the Vour didn't seek funding from the city....

And because Matt you lack the depth of thinking multi layered, the post was was provided to show the feeling/sentiments of others who live in the region....but you can't think on that level can you Matt.

First $10,000,000 for a plant that will never be built, and now nearly a Million Hammond residents are going to be on the hook for the privileged it is going to cost Hammond residents for a company to build on the site and pay for someone's franchise.

And Matt, you don't live in the region... do you.. Come on now move back to Hammond, Tom could use your intellectual depth. It got you thru that foreclosure didn't it?

Wasn't a new Kentucky Fried Chicken built on north Calumet Avenue and Hammond resident's didn't pay for that franchise. Why are we paying for this?


It just goes to show that NWI is trapped in small-thought luddite thinking. Yourself included. But then again that's only for show, isn't it? You are just pissed off you have been cut out of the money pie. If it was "your guy" in power and you were milking the system.

Read those comments again. "If they build it, it's going to draw crime". Yeah ...I hear about all the gang shootings at BW3's across the nation. "It will be bankrupt in a year" Yeah ..a company that has started dozens of franchises doesn't know what it's doing. Then of course your false comments about it being an LLC and that McDermott and crowd are involved. I guess you can't hide the "stupid" in the region.

Regardless of corporation size and profit, if you don't give incentives they aren't going to build. That's the way the game is played! Every City is chasing corporations to build, and those that give the best incentives get economic development.

Also "Million" Hammond residents? LOL You better check your numbers again skippy. I think you have over estimate by 10x there. Plus NOBODY is going to be on the hook seeing that the bonds are being paid back with property taxes from a property that had been generating ZILCH.

The thing you truly have to learn that "Da Region" just doesn't get is there is a bigger world out there. There is a great beyond that extends beyond living on someones payroll. It doesn't matter who is in power in NWI, nobody gets it. You and everyone else are so trapped in a system that mattered when the mills were something and held some sort of political capital. They don't anymore and neither does NW Indiana. It's a has been place that will never be again.

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 Post subject: Re: More $$$ out the window to pals of Tom?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:33 am 
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I guess Matt, you're absolutely correct, the Calumet avenue KFC, Dunkin Donuts, the Dollar Stores, the gym reportedly going in @ the old Stardust, all have gotten millions in bonds from Hammond to build, the bonds just haven't been made public right?

And let's not forget the Pawn Shops, the remodeled McDonalds @ the Menards Plaza and the new building being built across from Home Depot, all these business coming to Hammond have gotten millions in bond from Hammond citizens floating paper, right?

It is the new corporate way. Must have been some secret bond issues.


I still would like to know where the Potash $10,000,000 went and the 5, now possibly less jobs Tom announced before the last election?

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:13 am 
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How is it that these TIF deals don't fall under procurement laws for competitive bidding? Taxpayers are buying 850k worth of something. That something needs to have a specification written for it, and then let out to bid. Is someone willing to do the build out for only a 500k incentive? How do we know? All we know are deals are "negotiated" behind closed doors, then rubber stamped. How do we know 850k incentive doesn't include creative ways to kick back 100k to the local lever pullers who made the gift possible? Why has the Supreme Court upheld limits on campaign donations to politicians? Because of the real possibility for pols to be bought. Here, there is no limit on money to pay "incentives". Is a quo being returned for the 850k quid? I am supposed to just trust? Ridiculous.


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 Post subject: Re: More $$$ out the window to pals of Tom?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:43 pm 
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justcallmetommy wrote:
I guess Matt, you're absolutely correct, the Calumet avenue KFC, Dunkin Donuts, the Dollar Stores, the gym reportedly going in @ the old Stardust, all have gotten millions in bonds from Hammond to build, the bonds just haven't been made public right?

And let's not forget the Pawn Shops, the remodeled McDonalds @ the Menards Plaza and the new building being built across from Home Depot, all these business coming to Hammond have gotten millions in bond from Hammond citizens floating paper, right?

It is the new corporate way. Must have been some secret bond issues.


I still would like to know where the Potash $10,000,000 went and the 5, now possibly less jobs Tom announced before the last election?


Well first, the Calumet Ave KFC rebuild was dictated by KFC Corporate. So was the many McDonald's rebuilds around NWI Indiana. Corporate threatened to pull their franchises unless they updated to the new design stores.

Not to mention that John Loxas did get a tax abatement back in the 1980s when he built Olympia and renovated the Howard Johnsons. He was up for a tax abatement in the late 90s when he was going to build the strip mall just south of Johnels.

Menards was sold property at a major discount that had been held by Economic Development to facilitate their expansion.

Let's not forget that none of those properties are in a TIF zone, as Oxbow Landing is. That's the whole reason for creating a TIF zone is to encourage economic development via incentives.

As for Potash, I have shown you links from Potash and the IHB showing that the facility is coming. They have already laid the track in the Gibson yard and are moving product via the IHB. You can choose to believe whether the warehouse is coming or not. You can't make stupid people believe something they aren't capable of understanding.

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 Post subject: Re: More $$$ out the window to pals of Tom?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:49 pm 
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lubu wrote:
How is it that these TIF deals don't fall under procurement laws for competitive bidding? Taxpayers are buying 850k worth of something. That something needs to have a specification written for it, and then let out to bid. Is someone willing to do the build out for only a 500k incentive? How do we know? All we know are deals are "negotiated" behind closed doors, then rubber stamped. How do we know 850k incentive doesn't include creative ways to kick back 100k to the local lever pullers who made the gift possible? Why has the Supreme Court upheld limits on campaign donations to politicians? Because of the real possibility for pols to be bought. Here, there is no limit on money to pay "incentives". Is a quo being returned for the 850k quid? I am supposed to just trust? Ridiculous.


Well I suppose someone can ask for $500K in incentives for other parcels of property there at Oxbow Landing. There are a few more open aren't there?

I have listed ad nauseam about the use of TIF's as economic development engines, both good and bad. I think they are highly overused and not always the best tool.

But the fact is it's the tool du jour and being used exactly as Hammond is all over the country. Would you prefer Hammond to have no economic development and it go to neighboring communities and make it a moral stand? It's not exactly like Hammond has many bargaining chips like say upscale demographics or an educated upper income consumer. We get crap development because we have crap demographics.

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 Post subject: Re: More $$$ out the window to pals of Tom?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 3:17 pm 
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Matt, at least we are in agreement.

Most of the deals @ oxbow appear to have some smell of sleaze in them.

And the problems with development in NWI have been the politicians with their hand out, back room deals, asking for their slice of the pie. So why should we accept this piece of slime? My bet it will be a franchise with one of the friends and family members owning it.

In fact one developer recently told me... Hammond Building Department has three test, one for people who are friends and family, another for the real test and a third for out of town contractors, the latter the most difficult so out of town developers have to use "approved" contractors.

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 Post subject: Re: More $$$ out the window to pals of Tom?
PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2014 5:31 am 
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Another scam? Public funding of private ventures.... lack accountability.

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MARION CANNOT EXPLAIN $2.5M YMCA LOAN: Concrete around the former YMCA in Marion is crumbling (Haeberle, WISH-TV). Windows are boarded up. A new electrical system remains shut off. Wires for new lights hang from the ceiling. Construction work that would have revamped the former YMCA into a hotel and retail shops stopped more than a year ago with little explanation. City officials also cannot explain why there are very few financial documents detailing how the money from a $2.5 million bond issuance was spent. Five years after the project began, there’s no clear indication when or if it will be finished. And the city of Marion has released the developer, Michael Y. An, from repaying any of the debt. According to the city’s development director, “there really never was an expectation for (An) to pay,” Lisa Dominisse wrote in an email to I-Team 8. Instead, two sources of taxpayer money – both Tax Increment Financing (TIF) and Community Redevelopment Enhancement Districts (CREED) – are being used to repay the debt.

This project represents a growing concern among elected leaders and citizens interviewed by I-Team 8. They’re worried that public money is too often used to help fund private projects through the use of TIF…In 2009, the city of Marion took out the $2.5 million TIF bond – essentially a tax-backed loan – for the purpose of revamping the YMCA. After the bonds were sold, city records obtained by I-Team 8 show the proceeds were given to California developer Michael Y. An. An’s company, Global Investment Consulting, was supposed to turn the YMCA into a hotel and retail shops with the understanding it would create 80 to 90 jobs and bring in an annual payroll of $1.2 million to $2 million, according to the original contract and bond agreement signed by Marion Mayor Wayne Seybold.

But the receipts detailing how that $2.5 million loan was spent are sparse. After I-Team 8 filed an open records request asking for all the financial records, the city provided the 200-page original bond agreement along with 16 pages of documents that supposedly account for the $2.5 million. But all of those records come back to An’s companies: Global Investment Consulting or World Enterprises Group. Before An could get money for the project, he was supposed to submit “distribution requests” in writing to First Farmers Bank and Trust, the trustee the city hired to manage the bonds. Five distribution requests were included in the reply to I-Team 8′s open records requests. One is for $481,000 for a “construction fee.” The others include expenses like $250,000 for an HVAC system, $95,000 for an elevator and $305,000 on plumbing. But none of the documents explains what vendor did that work, when it was done, or if it was completed.


It appears the Mayor's brother was working for the firm.... now that wouldn't happen in Hammond would it?

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An, was supposed to repay any debt when TIF revenue wasn’t sufficient, according to the original bond agreement. But two years later in 2011, all of that changed. City records show the city paid $871,210 in debt service on the original $2.5 million bond. In order to pay off the remaining $2.4 million, the city took out another $5.8 million loan backed by property taxes as part of a massive plan to refinance several bonds – including the YMCA project. That’s according to records provided by the city’s development director, Lisa Dominisse… I-Team 8 has also learned An owes more than $30,000 in back taxes on his other Marion properties. When asked what guarantees the city had from An that the project would be complete, the mayor said: “We have no guarantees.”


Potash comes to mind.

I hear from a contractor the Potash project will start in June or July. Someone is selling a $100,000 six acre parcel @ the Potash location.

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 Post subject: Re: More $$$ out the window to pals of Tom?
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STATE’S 600+ TIF DISTRICTS WILL COME UNDER MORE SCRUTINY: TIF allows local governments to use a portion of property tax revenues gathered from designated areas to pay for projects. It’s been popular among local leaders for decades as a way to build infrastructure or pay for job creation projects (Haeberle, WISH-TV). TIF projects are often seen as politically safe because they rarely require a vote from elected leaders or consent from taxpayers. It’s usually touted as a job creation tool and helps bolster the stats of elected leaders. There are more than 600 TIF districts spread out among 81 counties in Indiana, according to the most recent state numbers available from November 2013. Through our investigation, I-Team 8 discovered that the state of Indiana doesn’t track specific TIF projects; meaning if they fail, there’s no oversight and no one is held accountable. And usually, that leaves taxpayers on the hook… A state law will create more oversight with regard to TIFs. Senate Bill 118 was signed into law this spring with little news coverage. The law, co-authored by Sen. Pete Miller and others, will require elected leaders to approve new TIF districts instead of political appointees on redevelopment commissions. The law also retires older TIF districts and sets new parameters for creating new ones.


Will this be the end of the Hammond REdevelopment Commission Gravy Train? I'd like to see a couple of the members of that organization answer questions under oath @ the Federal Level.

Someone believes because a commission votes on a measure, it is ok to misappropriate money or provide no sanctions to subordinates, who transfer/authorize payment of funds.

The time of city employee's citing on the Redevelopment Commission should end as well.

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It was amazing how quickly this project was approved. I wonder if a McDermott made money on it and/or is shareholder in this LLC or both?


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