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 Post subject: NO Safe walk way for St John residents WALK AT YOUR OWN RISK
PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 9:53 am 
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Bridge, tunnel over 41 not likely in St. John
BY VANESSA RENDERMAN
vrenderman@nwitimes.com
219.933.3241 | Monday, September 29, 2008

ST. JOHN | The volume of pedestrian traffic along U.S. 41 in St. John doesn't warrant a tunnel or pedestrian bridge, state and local officials said a week after a St. John man was killed crossing the thoroughfare.

Construction of a bridge or tunnel to cross U.S. 41 in St. John hasn't been requested, and a study hasn't been conducted, Indiana Department of Transportation spokesman Joshua Bingham said.

The intersection of U.S. 41 and 93rd Avenue has a push button crosswalk if pedestrians want to cross there, he said.

On Sept. 17, Peter Hinkens, 44, was killed when he was struck by a car as he crossed U.S. 41 close to midnight.

The busy thoroughfare is the town's commercial corridor. But, foot traffic on U.S. 41 isn't normally a problem in St. John, Police Chief Fred Frego said.

Lake Central High School sits on U.S. 41, on the north end of town. But students don't often cross over. Those who walk usually go out the back gate of the school and not along 41, he said.

Frego said last week's death was the first one he can recall involving a pedestrian trying to cross U.S. 41.

"The only safe crosswalk you could have there would be an overhead crosswalk," he said. "I don't see that on the radar screen."

The town had entertained the idea of building a pedestrian bridge as a way to connect bike paths across U.S. 41, but it is "highly unlikely" that it will happen any time soon, Town Manager Steve Kil said.

"We simply don't have the means, nor is it our road," he said.

The town wouldn't object to INDOT building a pedestrian bridge. When it was discussed in the past, officials said the best place for it was just south of Alsip Home and Nursery. It could connect bike trails there the best, he said.

The possibility of a pedestrian bridge might be examined more closely if there were a large increase in foot traffic across U.S.41, of people trying to get to stores, for example, he said.

"Typically no one is walking across 41," Kil said. "They're always driving."


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 Post subject: Re: NO Safe walk way for St John residents WALK AT YOUR OWN RISK
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The state needs to take a look at Westfield shopping town area.

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 Post subject: Re: NO Safe walk way for St John residents WALK AT YOUR OWN RISK
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Geronimo wrote:
The state needs to take a look at Westfield shopping town area.


Off topic..... :D :smt006

Everything is a risk Gunslinger. :lol: :smt006

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 Post subject: Re: NO Safe walk way for St John residents WALK AT YOUR OWN RISK
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41 is bad in St. John, but its really the town runners fault though

When they were approving developments along 41, at no time did they step in to require sidewalks. Thats the towns fault.

Common sense would have told them to require them from the get go. going back and trying to fix the barn door after the horses left is stupid and more expensive

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 Post subject: Re: NO Safe walk way for St John residents WALK AT YOUR OWN RISK
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You are right Mike, no money available now though, we can only hope that in the next town election, the Citizens party will not be as successful as in recent years.

Also, it would seem that the town is too involved in a chess match with Dyer to be concerned.


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 Post subject: Re: NO Safe walk way for St John residents WALK AT YOUR OWN RISK
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Gunslinger wrote:

Also, it would seem that the town is too involved in a chess match with Dyer to be concerned.


Didn't you read all about it in the paper? Fryzel was quoted as saying that St.John will not attempt "any in-voluntary annexations." In other words, St. John does not seek any hostile annexations. What in tarnations turned Mikey around? First he was in the paper spouting off , if it's a fight Dyer want's then their in for the fight of their life. Now it appears as if St.John is not planning to fight Dyer on this annexation. So, what's your take on this Gunslinger? You think St.John has enough land to dilly with or maybe the cost of the lawyer's and the state of the economy backed him off. Maybe Mikey's chillin' these day's and just kickin' back enjoying his "LIFE" cereal. After all "TRICK'S" are for kids. :D :smt006 :smt006

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 Post subject: Re: NO Safe walk way for St John residents WALK AT YOUR OWN RISK
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St John is probably in the hock for more money than residents know about. Yes, enough land right now to worry about but! it doesnt mean that they wont annex when people want it voluntarily. My understanding is the residence on the corner of Calumet and 101st wants to be annexed b/c the county/? wont put up a barrier preventing cars from slamming into her house. SO, do I think St John will eventually take the land? Yes.


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 Post subject: Re: NO Safe walk way for St John residents WALK AT YOUR OWN RISK
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Its actually more beneficial to not force annexations

Look what happened in Porter a couple years ago. They tried to do a hostile annexation of land, and all it did was drive some residents to go to Chesterton and ask to be annexed instead, and Chesterton got to annex them faster than what Porter could do because Porter by forcing it, had to take longer than what it takes in a willing to be annexed petition.

Plus almost the entire council was voted out of office in the next election partly because of it


I think the land will end up with St John as well, because Dyer has no continuous land connection right now, while St. John does. I believe that's the way it is, if I am wrong I apologize

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