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 Post subject: MUST SEE! - The Obama Deception!
PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:21 am 
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Prepare yourself for some real shockers!

Alex Jones exposes the real Obama and he's certainly NOT one of us.

I definitely believe this is THE MUST SEE video of the year!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 5025800195

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 Post subject: Re: MUST SEE! - The Obama Deception!
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I think a lot of this is true...Crazy but true. :shock: :smt006

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 Post subject: Re: MUST SEE! - The Obama Deception!
PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 9:15 am 
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You don't have to think. Some of these Obama administration proposals are as bad as any theory put out there by what they term conspiracy theorists.

Yes there was an election here in the US but outside of perhaps some insiders NOBODY thought they were voting for socialist totalitarianism and to trade in the Constitution in for a one world government. Obviously it wouldn't come in one fell swoop but in increments. Funny that those increments towards that end are creeping in faster and faster these days though.

And they make fun of my questioning whether Obama even could be the Antichrist? Well he certainly is acting like he either wants to be or at least wants to set it up for him to take over. Either way it is unAmerican. Some would even term it treason.

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 Post subject: Re: MUST SEE! - The Obama Deception!
PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 11:17 am 
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Don't be to sure about that. I have spoke to many people out there and YES...they knew exactly what they were voting for. Not all but many. I suspected right away Obama was extreme left and anyone who had an ounce of sense that did not see the media fawning and propaganda and smears on Palin is trully an idiot. Never in my life have I seen anything like this..never. Plus anyone with any common sense who believed his bull about his church and Reverend Wright is really in denial. Wright WAS his mentor....sad. I wonder what the union people think about his back stabbing on NAFTA ? Then again, they probably don't even know what he's been up to with all his letters he sent to Canada and his latest meeting with them. :smt006

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Maybe degrees of it but only because they don't appreciate the gravity of what the proposals mean. For example if it comes to be as promised I wonder how many truly would favor mandatory service to the government? Yet in another sense that's exactly what crushing taxation equates too. And for all the claims of middle class tax relief all I see so far is tax increases on fuel, energy and cigarettes. But I suspect that middle income tax cut will get eliminated before the bill gets printed.

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 Post subject: Re: MUST SEE! - The Obama Deception!
PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 7:10 am 
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Maybe degrees of it but only because they don't appreciate the gravity of what the proposals mean. For example if it comes to be as promised I wonder how many truly would favor mandatory service to the government? Yet in another sense that's exactly what crushing taxation equates too. And for all the claims of middle class tax relief all I see so far is tax increases on fuel, energy and cigarettes. But I suspect that middle income tax cut will get eliminated before the bill gets printed.


Do you even think they know of the gravity of the situation? If it comes to happen it would then be too late. I see no relief for the middle class either. Also, do not the Obama people always reference Obama's tax increases to Clinton's? Here I thought Clinton's tax increases had went to balance the budget. Where exactly is Obama's collection of tax increases going? Not to cut the budget..... :wink: As far as all this anti-christ stuff goes, I can only speculate as this debate has gone on for years. Although, I have always said Obama is the devil in disguise. BTW, did you know Obama's Give Act does not allow those who join to protest in any way, shape or form? Also, on another note.....do you believe the FED is a private bank? I do. They have just been given unconstitutional power by the congress to coin and regulate the money ect. :smt006

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 Post subject: Re: MUST SEE! - The Obama Deception!
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If it comes to happen it would then be too late.

As far as all this anti-christ stuff goes, I can only speculate as this debate has gone on for years.

First, obviously a one world rules was never going to just show up one fine day and say "I'm taking over this planet in the name of the Devil." Of course it will (is) more subtle than that. It will be (is) part of a deception. He comes in on a platform of peace but it won't last long. He'll be the man with the answers but again it will all fall apart in the end.

To that, I see some of these proposals from the Obama administration and all I see is smoke and mirrors. As I type this Obama is on TV this very minute in a clip saying we don't know what will be 10 years from now. Talk about irony! Because yes we can. ;) We can because the work his administration is proposing at Treasury alone is enough to destroy what's left of the value of the dollar eventually.

And on second point, while speculation has of course been going on for quite a while nobody to date has fit the bill and could not be dismissed as possibly being the Antichrist. While Hitler might have come close in some respects he was not the son of a Muslim, which by my understanding the Antichrist would need to be. And oddly, Obama is at least half German. Another curious coincidence as the German Vandals were the vehicle of the undoing of Rome, though we could make comparisons with the US today and the moral decay which made it and us weak. So as we see, while coincidence those coincidences do tend to keep coming along.

But you don't even need to believe that Obama could be the Antichrist. If nothing else he is at least setting things up that way even if by ignorance and incompetence. And you don't have to even believe in an Antichrist to see that the world as a whole is indeed crying out for a one world leader to fix everything. But it just makes me sick that most of the work and financing towards this end seems to be directly related to the US.

It will be quite interesting to see who our next 2 UN ambassadors may be. I think the US is pretty far down the list now for the head of the UN, so not too likely to be the Antichrist and rise to global power that way, but it will be interesting all the same. But even if it would turn out to be Jimmy Carter or Bill Clinton I assure you that neither of them would be "the Antichrist." I know some have had speculations about both in the past but neither really fits the description, nor does either Bush.

That said you can thank "W" for the RFID chips coming online and the potential for it to evolve into "the Mark of the Beast." Frankly I was hoping that was more symbolic than literal, just to throw out one example say like taking ashes for Ash Wednesday on your right hand or forehead type of a thing. But it cannot be denied that coincidentally the RFID does make it possible for no man to buy or sell without the mark. You can't even get non-prescription behind the counter medicine without a government id anymore.

So as to the question of an Obama deception it doesn't too much matter whether he is the deceiver or himself being deceived. Many people want universal healthcare because it sounds nice in theory but where has it ever actually worked well? Some also want the government to take over energy distribution, to put it in broad terms, which again sounds nice until you actually try to do it.

The point remains that the American people are being deceived into a form of totalitarian socialism and unfortunately too many people don't even know why that's a bad thing.

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 Post subject: Re: MUST SEE! - The Obama Deception!
PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 9:55 am 
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I actually agree with all the above mentioned. I have said to many people since Obama got elected....just wait...he will use the U.N. to accomplish his goals. Very interesting role the U.N. has been playing lately. I am still trying to figure out if Obama is a man of peace or just a great pretender. I still think Iran, China and Russia are up to no good. China and Russia both have been building up militarily these days. As far as Iran, IMO...I think our country went into Iraq on purpose and would of happened no matter what party was in office. Why? Which country is in the middle of Iraq and Afghanistan? The monkey? :wink: :smt006

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Not to get into it too much as this is off topic but since you mentioned it I think preachers might have been mistaken in their perception of China, prophesy wise, at the end of days. But just suffice to say it is interesting how we own them a lot of money, how a lot of their revenues come from us, and how they have caught up in technology and weapons in the past few years. Curious how the US is not overtly identified in any of that conflict, nor in the prophesied attack on Israel in Ezekiel. But you would have to believe that Obama's foreign policy decisions would certainly come into play in those conflicts one way or another.

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 Post subject: Re: MUST SEE! - The Obama Deception!
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What topic? :lol: I don't care if the discussion changes as long as it's not used as a diversion. :D I'm very rusty on the anti christ stuff however. We used to discuss it on the job well over 20 years ago. This one guy was really into it and also thought the mark of the beast would be something implanted in us that would be used as a means to buy, trade or sell. I'm pretty sure he thought the king of the east was China. So,in regards to the movie, once I watched it, I kept finding things that are happening in the present that correlated to that movie. I've been getting into the Glenn Beck show lately. I know the liberals are trying to paint him and anyone else out who is starting to speak out about the constitution as crazy but I think he's just a man who loves his country and see's us swaying away from our core principle's. He is right about that and thats why they are assaulting him as well as others. Oh well, too bad. :D :smt006

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