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Mirage · **Joined:** Mon Feb 14, 2005 10:08 am **Posts:** 4781

Amy Wigs wrote:

expresso66 wrote:

Now what weapon does mass destruction? WMD are chemical and nuclear, you didn't have to mention nuclear, the WHOLE world knows what WMD mean. AND they could be chemical, HOWEVER, no evidence was ever found even for chemical ones.

Actually, a WMD is a weapon that can indiscrminately kill a large amount of people.

You mean like a fully fueled airplane?

Amy Wigs · **Joined:** Sun Jun 05, 2005 8:11 pm **Posts:** 755

Hoosier Master? · **Posted:** Thu Nov 23, 2006 1:54 pm

Amy Wigs wrote:

expresso66 wrote:

Colin Powell, for pete's sake, why? The guy lied in the UN, hence the world, about Saddam's non-exsistent WMD. Was a part of the Mai-Lie Massacre cover-up, a simple paper pusher; come on guys, come up with someone better!

WMDs have been found in Iraq. They haven't found NUCLEAR weapons, but they have found WMDs.

You know how they knew there were WMD? They still had the receipts!

Video
http://www.amurka.com/mpg/mnm_saddam_rumsfeld_6mb.mpg
Rumsfield denies immediate threat:
http://www.americanprogress.org/kf/rumsfelddeny4.wmv

9/11 Truth: False Flags & Low Intensity Operations
A conscious decision has been made by the highest levels of the U.S. government to create a phony terrorist threat in order to justify the militarization of foreign policy, repeal civil liberties at home, criminalize dissent and introduce draconian legislation like the Patriot Act and the Military Commissions Act of 2006. This clip is from "Oil, Smoke & Mirrors"
http://www.ifilm.com/video/2795695

freetime · **Posted:** Thu Nov 23, 2006 2:22 pm

Amy, I'm afraid you might be wrong on this one. Did you ever find any references for your WMD claim?

Amy Wigs · **Joined:** Sun Jun 05, 2005 8:11 pm **Posts:** 755

freetime wrote:

Amy, I'm afraid you might be wrong on this one. Did you ever find any references for your WMD claim?

Haven't even taken the time to look it up yet, truth be told. I'll look it up and I will get back to you on that.

freetime · **Posted:** Fri Nov 24, 2006 8:08 am

I think you're wasting your time, Amy. I don't think they had anything WE didn't give them.

Mirage · **Joined:** Mon Feb 14, 2005 10:08 am **Posts:** 4781

freetime wrote:

I think you're wasting your time, Amy. I don't think they had anything WE didn't give them.

Actually I heard it too. I didn't comment because I can't recall the details. But I think there were chemical.

Again, that's within Iraq. That's not what's said to be stored "in nearby muslim countries."

freetime · **Posted:** Fri Nov 24, 2006 9:11 am

There were lots of "propaganda" type reports comuing out that turned out to be false.

freetime · **Posted:** Fri Nov 24, 2006 11:03 am

Sorry Amy. The BBC says you are wrong.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4169107.stm

the oracle lives here · **Joined:** Fri Sep 29, 2006 4:38 pm **Posts:** 1360

there were some old chemical shells found. most dating back to the original gulf war that iraq had claimed to destroy...but they were found in tact in iraqi storage. not particularly many of them though.

there has been evidence uncovered that they did have an active nuclear program...but it was no where near as advanced as say iran...or even iraq was 15 years earlier.

there have also been reports of various chemicals stored in seperate areas...that if mixed properly would have created a vx like gas. but they were in inert seperate facilities as i mentioned.

so basically they had the capability of wmd's but when we went in they didnt have the actual wmd's. and again that doesnt account for whatever sadaam may have sent to syria.

FFScott · **Joined:** Tue Dec 14, 2004 9:55 am **Posts:** 193

I dont think there were any WMD in East Chicago the other day either when Hammond mayor walked out on an attempt to pay claims for a committe that hadn' t met for 3 years.

kapptin · **Joined:** Tue Nov 14, 2006 6:14 pm **Posts:** 355

freetime wrote:

Coulfd mcmayor have learned earlier about Hammond's part in the Healthy Start prenatal program he resigned from recently?
IN a story in today's NWITimes, former Hammond Health Director Helene Uhlman says she tried to tell McdErmott about the program but he refused to meet with her. He had been trying to get Uhlman fired since he took office, and eventually suceeded.
McDermott has said Hammond might start its own program. but the remaining members of the Health Start group say his resignation may jeapordize the program since an interlocal agreement was signed among them to get the federal money.
Like mcmayor, I wonder how bills were being paid while the group was having no meetings. But Iam starting to see the telltale signns of him attempting to wrest control of the program for himself, and if Uhlman is telling the truth, his refusal to listen to someone who could have filled him in on what was going on a long time ago. I guess time will tell whether he deserves poraise or derision for his actions on Healthy Start.
Here's the story:

http://www.nwitimes.com/articles/2006/1 ... 7f8fc2.txt

Kiesling also had a column about Healthy Start this week. But if what Uhlman is saying is true, mcmator COULD HAVE known about Healthy STart a lot sooner if he hadn't refused to meet with her:

http://www.nwitimes.com/articles/2006/1 ... 0e3616.txt

If what Uhlman is saying is true she has been part of this debacle for several years. It makes you wonder how much money she accepted ,how many claims did she approve and why she didnt bring this out in the open long ago. Its no wonder she has tried to stay with the Health Department for so long.

Mary Lou · **Joined:** Wed Nov 15, 2006 8:38 pm **Posts:** 955

kapptin wrote:

freetime wrote:

Coulfd mcmayor have learned earlier about Hammond's part in the Healthy Start prenatal program he resigned from recently?
IN a story in today's NWITimes, former Hammond Health Director Helene Uhlman says she tried to tell McdErmott about the program but he refused to meet with her. He had been trying to get Uhlman fired since he took office, and eventually suceeded.
McDermott has said Hammond might start its own program. but the remaining members of the Health Start group say his resignation may jeapordize the program since an interlocal agreement was signed among them to get the federal money.
Like mcmayor, I wonder how bills were being paid while the group was having no meetings. But Iam starting to see the telltale signns of him attempting to wrest control of the program for himself, and if Uhlman is telling the truth, his refusal to listen to someone who could have filled him in on what was going on a long time ago. I guess time will tell whether he deserves poraise or derision for his actions on Healthy Start.
Here's the story:

http://www.nwitimes.com/articles/2006/1 ... 7f8fc2.txt

Kiesling also had a column about Healthy Start this week. But if what Uhlman is saying is true, mcmator COULD HAVE known about Healthy STart a lot sooner if he hadn't refused to meet with her:

http://www.nwitimes.com/articles/2006/1 ... 0e3616.txt

If what Uhlman is saying is true she has been part of this debacle for several years. It makes you wonder how much money she accepted ,how many claims did she approve and why she didnt bring this out in the open long ago. Its no wonder she has tried to stay with the Health Department for so long.

the oracle lives here · **Joined:** Fri Sep 29, 2006 4:38 pm **Posts:** 1360

yeah. if ullman is involved deeply as it now seems...it really makes the mayor look good in light of past events and disputes.

however just because she was in charge of orchestrating the once every three year meeting...and now claims she was trying to tell the mayor about the committee...even when he was trying to fire here as already running a duplicate service in the hhs (it was actually a triplicit service it appears) maybe we should wait awhile before passing judgement. who knows...maybe theres another board that was quadrupilicating services?

helene must be one of governments biggest fans.

Hoosier Master? · **Posted:** Fri Nov 24, 2006 5:55 pm

FFScott wrote:

I dont think there were any WMD in East Chicago the other day either when Hammond mayor walked out on an attempt to pay claims for a committe that hadn' t met for 3 years.

They moved them into Gary.

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