Gates a “jungle monkey” - he admitted to being the author,

forest ave. gump · **Joined:** Sun Nov 19, 2006 10:40 pm **Posts:** 239

USMarine wrote:

forest ave. gump wrote:

John Adams one of 10 who were heavily involved in the creation of the Constitution could not have been any clearer:

"The general principles on which the fathers achieved independence were. . . . the general principles of Christianity. . . . I will avow that I then believed, and now believe, that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God; and that those principles of liberty are as unalterable as human nature."

John Adams (taken from a letter to Thomas Jefferson on June 28, 1813)

Thanks for playing....... :smt006

Uh USMarine, this statement expresses the "basis" for achieving independence, e.g. the motivation behind independence. The original argument was that this country was FOUNDED on Christian principles. Adams comments are clear, and no mincing of the meaning can be argued.

forest ave. gump wrote:

â€œThe government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.â€-John Adams, Treaty of Tripoly, article 11

No response to the source of you quotes? Thought not... the bias undermines the credibility, only those like you take them at face value and use them to substantiate your narrow-minded view of the world.

USMarine · **Joined:** Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:55 am **Posts:** 10483

Sockpuppet wrote:

Adams comments are clear, and no mincing of the meaning can be argued.

"The Christian religion is above all the Religions that ever prevailed or existed in ancient or modern times, the religion of Wisdom, Virtue, Equity, and Humanity. Let the Blackguard Paine say what he will; it is Resignation to God, it is Goodness itself to Man."

John Adams
July 26, 1796, in his diary.

Indeed.

Moby Grape · **Joined:** Sun Nov 12, 2006 12:19 pm **Posts:** 13802

pc doosh bag....

if we all thought like you did we all be married to your wife...

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