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 Post subject: Paragon Restaurant hit with immigration raid,13 arrested
PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 7:43 am 
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This story is a perfect example of what is wrong with our Immigration laws. On Wednesday, the feds raided the Paragon Restaurant in Schererville and arrested 13 illegals. IMO, these cases should be handled the way drug cases are handled. The owner of the restaurant should be arrested and his restaurant should be confiscated as a continuing criminal enterprise. This would help all the honest restaurant owners who play by the rules and pay their taxes.
http://www.post-trib.com/news/lake/2121562,paragon0325.articleThirteen people were arrested by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents at Schererville's Paragon Restaurant on U.S. 30 and at an undisclosed residence on Wednesday morning.About 8 a.m., agents executed a federal search warrant at the restaurant as part of an investigation. Paragon owner Michael McClellan said customers were escorted outside and the restaurant was closed for the day.

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 Post subject: Re: Paragon Restaurant hit with immigration raid,13 arrested
PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 8:15 am 
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This story is a perfect example of what is wrong with our Immigration laws. On Wednesday, the feds raided the Paragon Restaurant in Schererville and arrested 13 illegals. IMO, these cases who be handled the way drug cases are handled. The owner of the restaurant should be arrested and his restaurant should be confiscated as a continuing criminal enterprise. This would help all the honest restaurant owners who play by the rules and pay their taxes.
http://www.post-trib.com/news/lake/2121562,paragon0325.articleThirteen people were arrested by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents at Schererville's Paragon Restaurant on U.S. 30 and at an undisclosed residence on Wednesday morning.About 8 a.m., agents executed a federal search warrant at the restaurant as part of an investigation. Paragon owner Michael McClellan said customers were escorted outside and the restaurant was closed for the day.


Works for me. Should apply to construction companies as well. Not sure what you can do to a big corporation like BP though. Kinda hard to seize a multimillion dollar company like that under your proposal.

BTW why the redundant topic? I already had one.

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 Post subject: Re: Paragon Restaurant hit with immigration raid,13 arrested
PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 10:57 am 
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IMO, these cases who be handled the way drug cases are handled.

WTF is wrong with you?

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 Post subject: Re: Paragon Restaurant hit with immigration raid,13 arrested
PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 6:07 am 
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This story is a perfect example of what is wrong with our Immigration laws. On Wednesday, the feds raided the Paragon Restaurant in Schererville and arrested 13 illegals. IMO, these cases who be handled the way drug cases are handled. The owner of the restaurant should be arrested and his restaurant should be confiscated as a continuing criminal enterprise. This would help all the honest restaurant owners who play by the rules and pay their taxes.
http://www.post-trib.com/news/lake/2121562,paragon0325.articleThirteen people were arrested by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents at Schererville's Paragon Restaurant on U.S. 30 and at an undisclosed residence on Wednesday morning.About 8 a.m., agents executed a federal search warrant at the restaurant as part of an investigation. Paragon owner Michael McClellan said customers were escorted outside and the restaurant was closed for the day.


Works for me. Should apply to construction companies as well. Not sure what you can do to a big corporation like BP though. Kinda hard to seize a multimillion dollar company like that under your proposal.

BTW why the redundant topic? I already had one.

I didn't see any threads that specifically addressed the immigration raid at the Paragon restaurant. As consumers, we can dictate the way businesses act with our spending decisions.
There are far too many other restaurants that are honest and pay their taxes for anyone to patronize the Paragon. If the government is unwilling to shut them down, I say we do it ourselves by refusing to eat there.

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 Post subject: Re: Paragon Restaurant hit with immigration raid,13 arrested
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Once Obama grants the illegals amnesty they will then be US citizens. Legal to work and get our tax dollars for their healthcare. Problem solved the Obama way.

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 Post subject: Re: Paragon Restaurant hit with immigration raid,13 arrested
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Once Obama grants the illegals amnesty they will then be US citizens. Legal to work and get our tax dollars for their healthcare. Problem solved the Obama way.


Then DUMBO will immediately unionize them into the SEIU because he says they are entitled to it.

Then your bacon and eggs will cost $187.50 and take 7 people to prepare them.

$468.75 if you want them on a Saturday


and this is without the tip mind you....


although the workers will see a slight increase in their take home pay...

Just enough to cover the obamadeduction for the dues.

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 Post subject: Re: Paragon Restaurant hit with immigration raid,13 arrested
PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 11:25 am 
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sparks wrote:
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sparks wrote:
This story is a perfect example of what is wrong with our Immigration laws. On Wednesday, the feds raided the Paragon Restaurant in Schererville and arrested 13 illegals. IMO, these cases who be handled the way drug cases are handled. The owner of the restaurant should be arrested and his restaurant should be confiscated as a continuing criminal enterprise. This would help all the honest restaurant owners who play by the rules and pay their taxes.
http://www.post-trib.com/news/lake/2121562,paragon0325.articleThirteen people were arrested by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents at Schererville's Paragon Restaurant on U.S. 30 and at an undisclosed residence on Wednesday morning.About 8 a.m., agents executed a federal search warrant at the restaurant as part of an investigation. Paragon owner Michael McClellan said customers were escorted outside and the restaurant was closed for the day.


Works for me. Should apply to construction companies as well. Not sure what you can do to a big corporation like BP though. Kinda hard to seize a multimillion dollar company like that under your proposal.

BTW why the redundant topic? I already had one.

I didn't see any threads that specifically addressed the immigration raid at the Paragon restaurant. As consumers, we can dictate the way businesses act with our spending decisions.
There are far too many other restaurants that are honest and pay their taxes for anyone to patronize the Paragon. If the government is unwilling to shut them down, I say we do it ourselves by refusing to eat there.


Well my topic was not SPECIFICALLY about Paragon but about if we know where they are why not look there.

viewtopic.php?f=39&t=8464&p=107626&hilit=Paragon&sid=5e50aa4fd78301f8ba068df2f80cf12c#p107626

So how exactly is the average person supposed to know which restaurants are and which are not? And are you saying that such boycotts should be limited to restaurants? Or perhaps even just small privately owned businesses?

Perhaps you should set up a database site of who's in compliance and who's not. Or even just a running thread in the food section of this board and add names to a list as they crop up. I know in the past you have had much to say about out of town contractors that hire illegals bidding on government contracts. Why not put pressure on them as well?

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 Post subject: Re: Paragon Restaurant hit with immigration raid,13 arrested
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So Spark's how can you choose to support Osama Obama and his b!tch Pelosi, but you are so against illegals? Osama Obama and Pelosi are all about illegals and the "less fortunate"... Does this mean you are changing? I mean lets face it, the unions all supported Osama Obama and I have to wonder why?

You want to fix immigration problems but yet the two most powerful people are opening the doors, I'm really confused here on how YOU voters think out there? Or maybe I’m wrong and you can educate me about our “leaders”?


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 Post subject: Re: Paragon Restaurant hit with immigration raid,13 arrested
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Politician's R Liars wrote:
So Spark's how can you choose to support Osama Obama and his b!tch Pelosi, but you are so against illegals? Osama Obama and Pelosi are all about illegals and the "less fortunate"... Does this mean you are changing? I mean lets face it, the unions all supported Osama Obama and I have to wonder why?

You want to fix immigration problems but yet the two most powerful people are opening the doors, I'm really confused here on how YOU voters think out there? Or maybe I’m wrong and you can educate me about our “leaders”?

It's a shame you aren't willing to just discuss the topic of this thread, which is why owners of businesses who create the illegal immigration problem by hiring undocumented workers aren't dealt with more severely.

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 Post subject: Re: Paragon Restaurant hit with immigration raid,13 arrested
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What, you just can't have a discussion about why you support Osama Obama and that nasty rat Pelosi... I am very much on topic; the topic is all about illegals and immigration.... How did I not stay on topic? You want to punish some small little mom and pop shop, yet the government leaders, the most powerful man in this country, is opening the doors to illegal’s. Our "leader" is suggesting I should go to work to "help the less fortunate" and illegals in this country. So I'm suggesting fixing the problem at the source, however you want to put one lonely little nobody in jail and take everything away from them... It's not that I totally disagree with your theory, because I don't have any remorse for anyone who hires illegal’s and personally think they should go to jail, but that doesn't fix the problem, it doesn't even put a dent in it. So I'm willing to discuss the topic, why aren't you, after all you started the topic. Hell I even agree with you, but think we should start where the problem begins.


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 Post subject: Re: Paragon Restaurant hit with immigration raid,13 arrested
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sparks wrote:
Politician's R Liars wrote:
So Spark's how can you choose to support Osama Obama and his b!tch Pelosi, but you are so against illegals? Osama Obama and Pelosi are all about illegals and the "less fortunate"... Does this mean you are changing? I mean lets face it, the unions all supported Osama Obama and I have to wonder why?

You want to fix immigration problems but yet the two most powerful people are opening the doors, I'm really confused here on how YOU voters think out there? Or maybe I’m wrong and you can educate me about our “leaders”?

It's a shame you aren't willing to just discuss the topic of this thread, which is why owners of businesses who create the illegal immigration problem by hiring undocumented workers aren't dealt with more severely.


Well while you're at it better include them evil farmers hiring migrant workers.

And why can't they bust the food stamp office for knowingly harboring or assisting fugitives from justice?

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 Post subject: Re: Paragon Restaurant hit with immigration raid,13 arrested
PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 8:11 am 
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sparks wrote:
. As consumers, we can dictate the way businesses act with our spending decisions.


yep...they sure can...

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A Chicago job crisis
Chicago Tribune, by Editorial


High costs at McCormick Place are driving conventions and trade shows out of Chicago. We can fix that, or we can watch the jobs and dollars keep marching to other cities.

The people who run the shows and attend the shows love this city. They love the convention facilities. But the onerous costs and other hassles — starting and ending with McCormick Place work rules — are chasing them away.

Goodbye, Chicago. We'll send a postcard from Orlando.

That was the blunt message the managers of some of the biggest trade shows delivered to Illinois legislators on Thursday.
The venue was a Thompson Center hearing before a 16-member Senate-House committee that's desperately looking for a way to stop the exodus of shows and conventions.


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opin ... 4185.story


why is that?

I bet you don't answer this one either.

a simple legitimate article and a simple legitimate question void of all the racism and bigotry and all the other things you use to defend yourself...

go stick your head in the sand as usual.

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Moby Grape wrote:
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. As consumers, we can dictate the way businesses act with our spending decisions.


yep...they sure can...

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A Chicago job crisis
Chicago Tribune, by Editorial


High costs at McCormick Place are driving conventions and trade shows out of Chicago. We can fix that, or we can watch the jobs and dollars keep marching to other cities.

The people who run the shows and attend the shows love this city. They love the convention facilities. But the onerous costs and other hassles — starting and ending with McCormick Place work rules — are chasing them away.

Goodbye, Chicago. We'll send a postcard from Orlando.

That was the blunt message the managers of some of the biggest trade shows delivered to Illinois legislators on Thursday.
The venue was a Thompson Center hearing before a 16-member Senate-House committee that's desperately looking for a way to stop the exodus of shows and conventions.


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opin ... 4185.story


why is that?

I bet you don't answer this one either.

a simple legitimate article and a simple legitimate question void of all the racism and bigotry and all the other things you use to defend yourself...

go stick your head in the sand as usual.

The various unions that work the trade shows at McCormick Place have been granting concessions to keep the work in Chicago. However, when the unions asked the trade show organizers to open their books to show what kind of concessions the organizers were making, the fat cats refused. Typical corporate America behavior, sticking it to the working class while paying the corporate brass multi-million salaries and benefits. That being said, as long as the shows are staying in this country, unions will have the opportunity to organize the workers in Orlando and even the playing field.

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 Post subject: Re: Paragon Restaurant hit with immigration raid,13 arrested
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sparks wrote:
The various unions that work the trade shows at McCormick Place have been granting concessions to keep the work in Chicago. However, when the unions asked the trade show organizers to open their books to show what kind of concessions the organizers were making, the fat cats refused. Typical corporate America behavior, sticking it to the working class while paying the corporate brass multi-million salaries and benefits. That being said, as long as the shows are staying in this country, unions will have the opportunity to organize the workers in Orlando and even the playing field.


You want to make the "millions" the trade show organizers make? Organize your own show. You won't do it of course. That sort of work involves working past the traditional eight hours and sometimes even forsaking lunch and breaks. You and your cookie-cutter union buddies have no business complaining about the salaries anyone else is making. Remember: we all make decisions that have consequences throughout our entire lifetimes. You're just really beginning to regret yours.

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That being said, as long as the shows are staying in this country, unions will have the opportunity to organize the workers in Orlando and even the playing field.


....and if Orlando laborers overplay their hands like you Chicago-area gorillas did, the shows will move again. That's the problem with having chosen a career (like yours) which has relatively low barriers to entry and in which bloated old guys like you can be easily chucked aside for some 22-year-old fresh out of Ivy Tech.


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 Post subject: Re: Paragon Restaurant hit with immigration raid,13 arrested
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sparks wrote:
However, when the unions asked the trade show organizers to open their books to show what kind of concessions the organizers were making, the fat cats refused.


that's because it's none of your fuccking business....

what gives you the right to demand anything?

tell ya what....

when YOU start paying THEIR wages, you can demand it all you want....

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