Northwest Indiana Discussion

Just wanted to reply to some things that are said about people who "don't pay their fair share". I guess I'm one of those people. I'm married (both myself & my wife work) & have 4 kids. We received a refund. A larger refund this year because of the that tax cuts that were given to a lot of middle class people (& probably some of you). Despite the fact that some wanna say that President Obama raised taxes, factually that's not true.

Do I pay my fair share? I think I do. I get lots of deductions for my kids, day care, health care, travel expenses, etc. This allows me to get a refund. Everyone who receives a refund is not a drain on the rest of you. Some of us work & make decent $, but the tax credits we receive (which I believe were started under the Ragen administration) cut out some of my liability. So please stop demonizing those who you believe don't pay their "fair share".

Also, people are making such an issue of people not paying their fair share, but the real issue should be why are so many people unemployed or underemployed & don't pay any taxes. But that might be too difficult, so let's just demonize them instead. Are there people who take advantage of the system, yes. But lets not put everyone in the same box.

You have got to see this video....

What the heck even IS a "fair share?" If you want to break down legitimate government functions and decide on how we raise that amount we are in general agreement. But I don't consider my "fair share" as being any form of taxation that goes to fund foreign countries outside of emergency disaster relief, which I gladly would make an exception for. Beyond that start a non-profit charity but don't confiscate my earnings to redistribute to people who don't like us all that much.

There are enough things the Federal government gets involved in that it also shouldn't be.

So what's actually fair about the current spending outside of defense and legitimate regulation of interstate commerce?

So you weren't taxed or refunded prior to January 2009? This is a new thing under Obama that never occurred under any other administration (especially a Republican administration)...

Set aside the issue of Federal income tax for the moment, what you fail to comprehend is that soon some folks will be getting extra payroll deductions to comply with Obama-care and that states will have to increase their taxes to make up for Federal cuts as "stimulus money" runs out. So it's a tax increase no matter what taxing unit takes the money from you. And this is before some of Obama's other proposals like cap & tax and increases on auto fuel taxes and home energy usage.

The problem I have is the people that get back more than they paid in.

Precisely when the hell did I say that?
Please be specific.

That would be most people who live long enough to collect their Social Security checks for at least 4 years after retirement.

If her lazy butt can get out to protest then she should go get a job and contribute to society. I am tired of deadbeats.

Hey Mao/Truthinator...get your head in the game.
Jack is specifically advising to adjust withholding to more closely match actual tax liability.
His comments have absolutely nothing to do with politics. Get it??
For someone who just a short time ago pathetically implored us to "put politics aside".....you sure seem eager to interject politics into the most benign of subjects.

Rumor has it Obama is gonna raise social security - then use death panels to make sure you don't collect it for very long. Solves 2 problems at once!

Well, May1846, the taxpayers are quite tired of supporting government leeches like you, who are too stupid and lazy to get a private sector job.

I was just asking. Nick says he got a refund and you're all like "Blah blah blah, Obama, Edge, washing machine, government, taxes, blah, blah, blah". You're foaming at the mouth to stick it to Obama, and you're desperate to do it at any angle.