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 Post subject: DORIEN CLEARED
PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 10:39 pm 
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The police officer from Lynwood has been set free. They found out he was on his computer at the time of the shootings. Now where is the shooter? Will he strike again? The manhunt now continues. There will be talk around that he was let go because he was a policeman. That isn't the case at all. Will county has been known to apply charges on several others in different cases including murder and the defendants were later cleared. They can't take another chance of a mistake. On thing that really stuck out. Dorien was stopped in Schererville later in the day, driving the white truck, similar to the one the shooter used. If he was the shooter, wouldn't he change vehicles if he was going to ride around town. He had others and a motorcycle at his disposal.


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 Post subject: Re: DORIEN CLEARED
PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 10:51 pm 
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Dorien was stopped in Schererville later in the day, driving the white truck, similar to the one the shooter used. If he was the shooter, wouldn't he change vehicles if he was going to ride around town. He had others and a motorcycle at his disposal.


From what I understand, he only owns a light blue truck(which was at his house when he was arrested), which was what he was pulled over in, not a white truck, which was one of two colors witnesses said the shooter was driving(white or light gray)

Granted, he may have a friend who drives a white truck, but I really didn't think it was him from the time they announced the arrest because the descriptions did not line up at all.

the description of the shooter was shorter than this guy was, and this guy weighed more than what witnesses estimated the weight at.

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 Post subject: Re: DORIEN CLEARED
PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:51 am 
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While this guy is apparently no hero you will note I did mention a rather famous case where the authorities jumped to a premature conclusion. I was worried this might happen when more details about what led to the arrest were not disclosed. But as probably everybody on this board will concede just because your computer is in use doesn't mean it is you at the keyboard.

So I don't know what to believe about this mess. But it does remind us of just how many times IL law enforcement has tossed someone in jail, even convicted, only to find out later they had the wrong guy. :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: DORIEN CLEARED
PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:53 am 
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It's great that they found this evidence as fast as they did. Now they can open the investigation, however the real shooter could be long gone. Many times the police arrest the wrong person and won't admit it. Sometimes they dream up evidence to just get a conviction. Look at that Cmdr Burge cases in Chicago. That guy wanted to convict people at random, just to set a record for his district. Another case is the Dowalaby murder in Midlothian. In that case the police department lied over and over to put the father in jail for what they said he killed his daughter Jacquelan. I was very close to that case as things fell apart years later the father was released.
Before the police could arrest another person in that case, the guy died. That part of the case was never revealed to the public. If you remember they made a movie about that murder. Midlothian police will tell you,"the case is still open". The chief at the time should have gone to jail like Burge.


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 Post subject: Re: DORIEN CLEARED
PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 11:07 am 
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This guys dad is a complete moron with a real, real hot temper.....not a good combination.


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 Post subject: Re: DORIEN CLEARED
PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:23 pm 
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I have a face book page and so does Brian how did he change his face book profile picture while in Jail?

The news media should ask that question who has account privileges?

The picture was of him in uniform a child a female in the background then his picture changed to

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 Post subject: Re: DORIEN CLEARED
PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:43 pm 
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Geronimo wrote:
I have a face book page and so does Brian how did he change his face book profile picture while in Jail?

The news media should ask that question who has account privileges?



Good question G man how do we know he didn't have a lap top with him while he was poping off some caps ????

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 Post subject: Re: DORIEN CLEARED
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He could have had his cell phone I pad right next to him.

They need to get his computer and check his browser history.

To many unanswered questions

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 Post subject: Re: DORIEN CLEARED
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 Post subject: Re: DORIEN CLEARED
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To be clear obviously I am just expressing an opinion of possibilities.

Maybe it is naive to assume but hopefully they checked the IP address, which again means nothing if a friend or a girlfriend had account access. We still don't know but hopefully the cops investigating had more proof of innocence than that before dropping all charges.

Now as for me it's no secret that I have a home security video system. The video is time stamped so if I were home during the time something happened I would both have video proof and the time stamp. And if that were not enough I guess an overzealous investigator could look at some of the service vehicles passing by to verify that the time stamp was correct. If for instance the cable company had a vehicle pass by at a certain time that would further authenticate the video proof & watermark by checking with dispatch to see when the truck passed. That said I don't think this guy had any type of security system to validate his comings & goings or they probably would have mentioned it.

I guess the only part about his being online as an alibi is a belief that no one else would help him get away with it, perhaps thinking this was a spur of the moment crime and that no one would help him perpetrate such a premeditated crime. I'm not sure any such assumptions can be made mainly because he was reportedly in proximity of one crime scene and there was a positive id made. If it perhaps was just dumb luck that someone else was online at his home why would they help cover it up and become an accessory after the fact? I have no clue. But in my mind the clearing has just as many unanswered questions as the arrest.

I will add this. The sketches didn't look much like him so it's possible the memory of the witness was flawed. Still, I can't get over the quote about you put the hat on him and that's him. Here's an idea. Not sure if it would work. You'll recall the airports spent $millions on facial recognition software. I wonder if you ran Dorien's face through the database if it might be able to pull up near matches? Assuming of course that the shooter is even in the database. But at this point with no real leads even a low percentage lead is better than no lead.

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 Post subject: Re: DORIEN CLEARED
PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 12:59 pm 
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Geronimo wrote:
He could have had his cell phone I pad right next to him.

They need to get his computer and check his browser history.

To many unanswered questions


They already did. From what I understand, they got his username and passwords to sites of his, and went to them and saw the last activity time.

Some sites do not have cell phone capability either

And driving around with a laptop, it would show where the wifi signal originated, which just like cell phone usage, can be pinpointed off of which cell tower it was used from.

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 Post subject: Re: DORIEN CLEARED
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I wanted to add, that is also if he used a smart phone to connect a laptop to wifi, if they connected toa random wifi connection from the air(like a home or business) and went to a website, the IP address would appear as whatever the IP address is of the person whose wifi signals came from. In other words, if I post this message from the Chesterton starbucks, the IP number when traced, would show up as the Chesterton Starbucks. If I used my smart phone to connect while sitting off of I-94, it would come from the IP of my cell phone, which is registered to my cell account, but also would show which local cell tower that I had used to connect to the internet from as well

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 Post subject: Re: DORIEN CLEARED
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Not only did they check the cell tower when he used his phone, but he was in that farm store also during one of the shootings and the sales slip had the time. I forget the program, but one can have a computer send messages any time day or night without even being near it. They checked that out also and the computer was clean of any such program. That cell tower was in Cedar Lake near that store. While I was typing this, I remember a person can create a Macro, that's a real old trick very few know about. It records any mouse or keyboard action and you can set it to ship out at any time. After it does that, it destroyes itself and you have no record of it. Only record shows the computer was sending at the pre prescribed time. To determine this, you have to get into the hard drive to find the Macro. But they said the release just didn't hinge on the computer activity but other things also. Some that I mentioned.


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 Post subject: Re: DORIEN CLEARED
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There are no questions left in my mind he did not do it .

I bet this experience will make him a much better officer.

I hope he is not vindictive.

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 Post subject: Re: DORIEN CLEARED
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newsflashkid wrote:
Not only did they check the cell tower when he used his phone, but he was in that farm store also during one of the shootings and the sales slip had the time. I forget the program, but one can have a computer send messages any time day or night without even being near it. They checked that out also and the computer was clean of any such program. That cell tower was in Cedar Lake near that store. While I was typing this, I remember a person can create a Macro, that's a real old trick very few know about. It records any mouse or keyboard action and you can set it to ship out at any time. After it does that, it destroyes itself and you have no record of it. Only record shows the computer was sending at the pre prescribed time. To determine this, you have to get into the hard drive to find the Macro. But they said the release just didn't hinge on the computer activity but other things also. Some that I mentioned.


Such programs are as old as DOS. I had a program like that back when I had a Commodore 64.

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