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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:37 pm 
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We've been hearing a lot in the news lately about pedophiles and their crimes. I've never heard a good answer from anyone on what we should do with these sometimes extremely dangerous guys.
What happens when they complete their prison terms? In Illinois they have a law that offenders can be held after prison in rehab, if they are determined to pose a danger in the community. They're trying to keep a Catholic priest right now.
It's a very difficult subject. I wonder what people who have relatives or friends who are pedophiles do?
I guess you accept them as they are, or you don't.
For example, I met a woman who is close to her ex-husband despite the fact she told me he is a pedophile. She helps him at the resort he runs, where kids obviously are among the guests. She has some mental issues herself, which may make her less troubled by such things.
I think I'd be a bit nervous about that if I were her.
But thank God, I've never been in that situation. How would you handle it if you had a relative or loved one who had this flaw?

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 Post subject: Re: Pedophiles
PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:02 pm 
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[size=150]We've been hearing a lot in the news lately about pedophiles and their crimes. I've never heard a good answer from anyone on what we should do with these sometimes extremely dangerous guys.
What happens when they complete their prison terms? In Illinois they have a law that offenders can be held after prison in rehab, if they are determined to pose a danger in the community. They're trying to keep a Catholic priest right now.

There is no such thing as rehabilitation for pedophiles - the recidivism rate is astronomically high.
My preference is to give them the option of life in prison, or parole if they agree to undergo chemical castration. I really see no other viable solution.

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 Post subject: Re: Pedophiles
PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:16 pm 
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Lock them up and throw away the key. They should never be let loose to hurt another child.

BTW, Free, that slime is an EX-Priest. He had his Roman collar yanked several years ago.


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freetime wrote:
We've been hearing a lot in the news lately about pedophiles and their crimes. I've never heard a good answer from anyone on what we should do with these sometimes extremely dangerous guys.
What happens when they complete their prison terms? In Illinois they have a law that offenders can be held after prison in rehab, if they are determined to pose a danger in the community. They're trying to keep a Catholic priest right now.

There is no such thing as rehabilitation for pedophiles - the recidivism rate is astronomically high.
My preference is to give them the option of life in prison, or parole if they agree to undergo chemical castration. I really see no other viable solution.


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Study shows link between homosexuality and pedophilia

By Interim Staff

A new study by Dr. Timothy J. Dailey and the Washington D.C.-based Family Research Council recently confirmed what police and psychiatrists have known for decades: a definitive link exists between male homosexuality and pedophilia.

The report entitled Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse, shows that while homosexual men make up less than three per cent of the adult male population, they commit a disproportionate number (one third or more) of child sexual molestations. Dailey's report is being sent to parents, youth groups, school administrators, Catholic bishops, and religious organizations.


http://www.theinterim.com/2002/sept/02study.html

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 Post subject: Re: Pedophiles
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Locally, Chester March(Deaf Interperter SCH), John Walrath(Griffith Grade School Teacher), Nationally, John Gacy, Jeffrey Dahmer, and the list goes on and on.

Chester March, who was a deaf interperter for the Hammond Schools, was my neighbor. He had a previous conviction for child molestation in Michigan, for which he had received probation. The SCH didn't run a thorough background check on him before they hired him. They just did a local check, which turned up nothing. March was also a deaf interperter for the 1st Baptist Church in downtown Hammond, until about 1 year before he was busted for molesting a Hammond High special needs student. His position at the church was abruptly ended, under rumors of child molestation. The Hammond Police could not get anyone to spill the beans on him, from that church. Also, there was suspicions that when March relocated to New York after he was convicted in Michigan(he only got probation), he molested children there, also. The police did not get enough info from there to prosecute. They did have problems with the neighbors when they lived in New York, and moved here to Hammond in 1996, after their former neighbors in New York basically pushed them out. Last I heard, March was living in a trailer park in Portage. When he was busted by the HPD for molesting the Hammond student, I went to the police. I was told that since I had girls, that they were never in danger from March. March is undoubtedly gay, but married to a woman who is nice, but definately not playing with a full deck. She also had previously worked for the SCH, as a substitute teacher. She is also a deaf interperter. BTW, March served a short prison sentance for molesting the Hammond student, and was out of prison in 1 1/2 years.

John Walrath, a former Griffith grade school teacher, kidnapped, molested, and murdered at least 7 little boys during the late 1960's, including a little boy who was my neighbor. He got caught trying to drown his 8th victim in Lake Michigan. After he was busted, the police found his apartment full of child porn and little boy's underwear. NONE of his victims were from the school he taught at. Most, with the exception of my neighbor boy and one other boy, were from the Chicago area. Walrath was sent to an insane asylum, where he still is today. He has made numerous attempts to be released, claiming he is "cured". The last time he attempted release was about 8 years ago.


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 Post subject: Re: Pedophiles
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I hate to say it, but you folks may be right that these guys need to be locked up for life.
I think I've read that chemical castration doesn't work in stopping the crimes. Obviously, they would be different crimes than actual rape.
It's just so horrible. What got me thinking about this again was the poor little 7-year old girl who went missing down south about a week ago, and who was found dead in a landfill. Abused and tossed out like so much trash.
I do think the women who can stay with these guys must be mentally ill themselves. But as I say, I have no experience here so I don't know how I would feel if I had a close relative like that.
For example, how did that wife stay with her husband who kidnapped the 11-year old in California and kept her prisoner at their home for 18 years?
I don't get it.

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 Post subject: Re: Pedophiles
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I no longer have anything to do with the woman I referred to who still associates with her pedophile ex-husband, but I know she reads this message board. I'd be very interested to hear her honest explanation for sticking with this guy.
I truly don't understand it.

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 Post subject: Re: Pedophiles
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You are a scumbag and I mean that in every sense of the word. If you want her explanation then why don't you call her and ask her instead of trying to start a thread that you can make more allegations about. Don't you have enough of those already? You don't know anything about these situations because you are a loner and not by choice, as anyone can read in the "looking for love" topic. Did you ever find that "fishing partner"?


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 Post subject: Re: Pedophiles
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George Donner1846 wrote:
Did you ever find that "fishing partner"?


Apparently YOU took the bait..... :smt005 :smt006

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For example, how did that wife stay with her husband who kidnapped the 11-year old in California and kept her prisoner at their home for 18 years?
I don't get it.


You would be surprised at the extent of psychological manipulation that many of these pedophiles are capable of using. That's why it's so easy for them to stay under the radar or to recruit other people in either joining them in the abuse or staying silent about it.

It's a disease that really has no cure.

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 Post subject: Re: Pedophiles
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I haven't heard much about that California wife, except she too is facing charges.

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 Post subject: Re: Pedophiles
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[size=150]We've been hearing a lot in the news lately about pedophiles and their crimes. I've never heard a good answer from anyone on what we should do with these sometimes extremely dangerous guys.

Don't forget, the muslims worship Mohammed, and he took a 12 year old bride.

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 Post subject: Re: Pedophiles
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USMarine wrote:
George Donner1846 wrote:
Did you ever find that "fishing partner"?


Apparently YOU took the bait..... :smt005 :smt006

freetime wrote:
For example, how did that wife stay with her husband who kidnapped the 11-year old in California and kept her prisoner at their home for 18 years?
I don't get it.


You would be surprised at the extent of psychological manipulation that many of these pedophiles are capable of using. That's why it's so easy for them to stay under the radar or to recruit other people in either joining them in the abuse or staying silent about it.

It's a disease that really has no cure.


I'm going to start looking online to see if anyone is seriously studying the problem of pedophiles.
Not a pleasant topic but one that really bothers me these days. Maybe there are some potential fixes out there?

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freetime wrote:
I'm going to start looking online to see if anyone is seriously studying the problem of pedophiles.
Not a pleasant topic but one that really bothers me these days. Maybe there are some potential fixes out there?


Indeed there is.... 8)


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freetime wrote:
I'm going to start looking online to see if anyone is seriously studying the problem of pedophiles.
Not a pleasant topic but one that really bothers me these days. Maybe there are some potential fixes out there?


Indeed there is.... 8)


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Just plain flippin' WOW.


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BILL O'REILLY, HOST: In the "Factor Investigation" segment tonight: As you may know, Vermont has rejected Jessica's Law, which gives mandatory prison sentences to child molesters. The state did that because it believes in restorative justice, where the child rapist and other heinous criminals must be healed, not punished to a great degree.

Now, we believe that philosophy puts Vermont's children in grave danger. We began our reporting on the Green Mountain State in January 2006 when Judge Edward Cashman sentenced this man [Mark Hulett], who sexually abused a 6-year-old girl for years, to 60 days in prison.

JESSE WATTERS, "FACTOR" PRODUCER: Why aren't you protecting the children against child rapists? Instead, you're passing bills to protect transsexual rights.

BILL LIPPERT, VERMONT HOUSE JUDICIARY CHAIRMAN: You're disgusting. You people don't even begin to know what the truth is. Yesterday we passed a strong bill against sexual predators. If you'd start with getting your facts straight for once, it would be a refreshing change.

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O'REILLY: Another BS statement. There was no change when it came to child predators.

Thirty-seven-year-old Andrew James pleaded guilty to sexually assaulting a 4-year-old boy. James got a suspended sentence — suspended sentence — from Vermont Judge David Howard.

WATTERS: So why do you keep sympathizing with Judge Cashman? What about Judge David Howard, who gave probation to a guy who sexually assaulted a 4-year-old?

DAVID MOATS, EDITORIAL PAGE EDITOR, RUTLAND VERMONT HERALD: I don't even know the case you're talking about.

WATTERS: Judge David Howard. You attacked Bill O'Reilly for that.

MOATS: I don't even remember the details of the case you're talking about.

WATTERS: Sir, with all due respect, you continually attack "The O'Reilly Factor." Your paper ran an op-ed that accused Bill of being a bigot and a homophobe for pushing Jessica's Law.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,572685,00.html



Bigot...? Homophobe....?

Why does that language sound familiar.....?
And it comes from someone protecting people who prey on children.

Coincidence....?

I think not.

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