Are Unions A Detriment To A Good Work Ethic? You Betcha!

Moby Grape · **Joined:** Sun Nov 12, 2006 12:19 pm **Posts:** 13802

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Are Unions A Detriment To A Good Work Ethic? You Betcha!

Democratic Party icon President Franklin D. Roosevelt believed that "[a] strike of public employees manifests nothing less than an intent on their part to obstruct the operations of government until their demands are satisfied."

By Alicia Colon

Originally I was going to focus only on public unions but then I thought long and hard about my own experience as a union member and found that my negativity applies to the very idea of a modern union. Most disputes in private industries can be resolved through other means rather than what the unions practice - extortion. One thing that the Wisconsin protests prove is that FDR was right about public unions. In a National Affairs magazine article Daniel DeSalvo wrote: "Meticulous attention," the president insisted in 1937, "should be paid to the special relations and obligations of public servants to the public itself and to the Government... The process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into the public service." The reason? FDR believed that "[a] strike of public employees manifests nothing less than an intent on their part to obstruct the operations of government until their demands are satisfied. Such action looking toward the paralysis of government by those who have sworn to support it is unthinkable and intolerable." Roosevelt was hardly alone in holding these views, even among the champions of organized labor. Indeed, the first president of the AFL-CIO, George Meany, believed it was "impossible to bargain collectively with the government."

Who can forget the Air Traffic controllers strike in 1981 when after warning the strikers that they were in violation of the law, President Reagan threatened to fire them? Lo and behold when they refused to return to work he did.

When the Governor of Wisconsin, Scott Walker, a Republican, tried to balance the state budget by reining in the costs of public sector unions, all hell broke loose. The teachers' union refused to make concessions that threatened their collective bargaining option and some Senate Democrats supported their protest by leaving the state to avoid voting on the proposed legislation. This was perfectly understandable because unions in general allocate millions of the members' dues to the Democrat Party.

read the rest of this great article here.

http://www.irishexaminerusa.com/mt/2011 ... _a_go.html

Moby Grape · **Joined:** Sun Nov 12, 2006 12:19 pm **Posts:** 13802

ONE OF THESE GUYS WAS WAS CAUGHT 3 TIMES SINCE JANUARY

AND HE CAN'T BE FIRED...

GUESS WHY

THESE ARE THE PROFESSIONALS SPARKS TELLS US ABOUT AND WHY THE UNIONS ARE SO DETRIMENTAL TO THE WORKING CLASS

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Fifth Incident of Sleeping Air Traffic Controller Prompts Schedule Actions
ABC News, by Lisa Stark & Kevin Dolak

For at least the fifth time since early March, an air traffic controller fell asleep on the job today in Miami, prompting negotiations between the government and the controllers' union to change the way controllers are scheduled to work.

The incident during the midnight shift did not cause any harm, and the controller was working alongside others, but it did again raise major concerns over safety that many feel must be the final straw in the string of incidents since March.

The Federal Aviation Administration acknowledged that there is a widespread problem with fatigue among controllers and that the organization must institute changes in work schedules.

"We are taking important steps today that will make a real difference in fighting air traffic controller fatigue. But we know we will need to do more. This is just the beginning," FAA Administrator Randy Babbitt said in a statement.

http://abcnews.go.com/Travel/incident-s ... d=13392288

Moby Grape · **Joined:** Sun Nov 12, 2006 12:19 pm **Posts:** 13802

THESE ARE THE PROFESSIONALS SPARKS TELLS US ABOUT AND WHY THE UNIONS ARE SO DETRIMENTAL TO THE WORKING CLASS

I'm just wondering

I think sparks should REALLY think about this the next time he's on approach at Midway, O'Hare, Gary International, or any other airport.... if this guy should get to keep his job.

What baffles me here is that this guy WAS SUSPENDED!...

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FAA suspends controller for watching movie on duty
Associated Press, by Joan Lowy & Ray Henry

WASHINGTON â€“ An air traffic controller has been suspended for watching a movie when he was supposed to be monitoring aircraft, deepening the Federal Aviation Administration's embarrassment following at least five cases of controllers sleeping on the job.

In the latest incident, the controller was watching a movie on a DVD player early Sunday morning while on duty at a regional radar center in Oberlin, Ohio, near Cleveland that handles high-altitude air traffic, the FAA said in a statement Monday.

The controller's microphone was inadvertently activated, transmitting the audio of the movie â€” the 2007 crime thriller "Cleaner," starring Samuel L. Jackson â€” for more than three minutes to all the planes in the airspace that the controller was supposed to be monitoring, the agency said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110419/ap_ ... ller_movie

chuckmo48 · **Posted:** Tue Apr 19, 2011 1:23 pm

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The real question, which Fox News didnâ€™t bother to address, is why havenâ€™t Republicans passed the bill to fund the FAA? If airport safety is such a concern, why has the funding bill been extending 18 times, but not passed. By foot-dragging on funding for the FAA House Republicans are making it less safe for Americans to fly.

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The union is not to blame for this problem. The truth is that ever since Ronald Reaganâ€™s famed gutting of the air traffic controllers, safety concerns have become more common.

http://www.politicususa.com/en/fox-news-air-traffic

Moby Grape · **Joined:** Sun Nov 12, 2006 12:19 pm **Posts:** 13802

chuckmo48 wrote:

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The truth is that ever since Ronald Reaganâ€™s famed gutting of the air traffic controllers, safety concerns have become more common.

http://www.politicususa.com/en/fox-news-air-traffic

any facts to back this up?

Moby Grape · **Joined:** Sun Nov 12, 2006 12:19 pm **Posts:** 13802

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One Yearâ€™s Worth Of Union Dues Could Support 265,447 U.S. Workers For A Year
Big Government, by LaborUnionReport

Union bosses have been engaging in class warfare for so long now that itâ€™s become standard for the media to echo the meme without challenge. An example of such mainstream Marxism is in todayâ€™s Bloomberg piece entitled â€˜Runaway CEO Payâ€™ Could Support 102,000 U.S. Jobs, AFL-CIO Says. Bloombergâ€™s piece relies heavily on the AFL-CIOâ€™s Executive Pay Watch, which was set up years ago to conduct a haves vs. have nots class warfare campaign to eventually have CEO pay limited by law or regulation. This was something union bosses accomplished to some degree with last yearâ€™s â€œWall Street Reform.â€

However disdainfully un-American it is to argue whether someone makes too much money in what was once the nation known as the land of opportunity, sometimes you have to roll with the pigs in the pigsty to show how stupid their arguments are. So here goes:

Here is the AFL-CIOâ€™s statement:

In 2010, Standard & Poorâ€™s 500 Index company CEOs received, on average, $11.4 million in total compensation. Based on 299 companiesâ€™ most recent pay data for 2010, their combined total CEO pay of $3.4 billion could support 102,325 median workersâ€™ jobs.

Using a simple calculator, it is easy to determine that the â€œworkersâ€™ jobsâ€ would pay $33,227 per year (about $16 per hour), not counting union dues, of course.

Given the AFL-CIOâ€™s penchant for pushing an eat the rich ideology, it seemed worthwhile to use the unionsâ€™ own logic to run our own set of numbers to determine how many workersâ€™ median jobs one yearsâ€™ worth of union dues could support.

http://biggovernment.com/laborunionrepo ... or-a-year/

BTW...unions are tax exempt.

Moby Grape · **Joined:** Sun Nov 12, 2006 12:19 pm **Posts:** 13802

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Second union official charged with embezzling
Post Tribune, by Teresa Auch Schultz

A former ArcelorMittal Indiana Harbor union president conspired with a former union secretary to embezzle more than $40,000 from United Steelworkers Local 1011, according to a federal indictment. Loren Hanson, 68, of New Mexico, was charged along with Jesse Lee Daniels Sr., 69, of Chicago, in a superseding indictment filed Wednesday in the U.S. District Court in Hammond. The new indictment claims that Hanson and Daniels increased their pay by signing checks for each other from 2005 to 2008. Hanson took an extra $21,450, while Daniels took an extra $19,500, the indictment says.

http://posttrib.suntimes.com/4935461-53 ... zling.html

Moby Grape · **Joined:** Sun Nov 12, 2006 12:19 pm **Posts:** 13802

the leftoids always choose the path of violence

now they teach it.

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Union Official, Professor Teach
How-to College Course in Violent
Union Tactics
Big Government, by Publiu

If you are wondering why some folks are starting to question whether a college education is worth the cost, the video below goes a long way towards explaining it. Recently, the University of Missouri-St. Louis (UMSL) and the University of Missouri-Kansas City (UMKC) sponsored two college courses: Introduction to Labor Studies and Labor Politics and Society, to be taught simultaneously through a video conference between to two campuses.

The Professors are Judy Ancel, Director of Labor Studies at UMKC and Don Giljum, business manager for the International Union of Operating Engineers at Ameren UE in St. Louis. (Bonus: he is a member of the Communist Party.)

In the class, the Professors not only advocate the occasional need for violence and industrial sabotage, they outline specific tactics that can be used. As one of our colleagues pointed out, its the matter-of-factness of it all that is so disturbing.

And yes, the schools, and the professorsâ€™ salaries, are funded by taxpayers.

Check back for more explosive, exclusive video later today.

http://biggovernment.com/publius/2011/0 ... n-tactics/

Moby Grape · **Joined:** Sun Nov 12, 2006 12:19 pm **Posts:** 13802

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No-work and all pay at Ground Zero
as rebuilding costs up $96 million
under lax union rules
New York Daily News, by Brian Kates

No-work jobs in a mob-linked union could add nearly $100 million to the public cost of rebuilding Ground Zero, a new report charges.The Real Estate Board of New York, a major developers' group, says antiquated rules let a cadre of crane and heavy equipment workers pocket six-figure paychecks for little more than showing up. In the next three years the no-work jobs, controlled by Locals 14 and 15 of the Operating Engineers, could add $96.2 million to the cost of World Trade Center projects, the REBNY says.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crim ... rules.html

Moby Grape · **Joined:** Sun Nov 12, 2006 12:19 pm **Posts:** 13802

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Auto industry worker testifies on union
harassment during organizing drive
Washington Examiner, by Philip Klein

Larry Getts was a union shop steward at a past job, so he was inclined to support unionization when labor organizers showed up at his current job at a Fort Wayne, Indiana Dana Corp. plant that packs and ships auto parts. But this morning Getts testified before the House Committee on Education and the Workforce that he eventually soured on the union as its representatives launched a campaign to harass and misinform workers as part of its "card check" organizing drive.

While workers beat back the attempts by the United Auto Workers to unionize the plant, it was only because they had the time to uncover the fact that they were being lied to by the organizers. But if the National Labor Relations Board goes through with newly proposed rules to rapidly speed up elections, workers will no longer have that ability in the future.

Testifying at the hearing this morning on the new NLRB proposals, Getts described what happened after organizers appeared at the Dana plant in October 2007 as "intolerable." The UAW representatives offended older female workers with foul language, approached workers on their lunch breaks, waited for them at their vehicles before and after the work day, and even followed them home.

The UAW made a string of promises about the benefits of unionization such as increased wages, that eventually proved false. Yet under a "neutrality agreement," the company couldn't counter union claims, so workers were on their own to expose union misinformation.

"My coworkers and I were ultimately able to reject the unwanted 'representation' of the UAW," Getts testified. "We came to that decision after we had the benefit of looking at all the facts -- and only because we were afforded the time to do so."

http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/bel ... -elections

Regionite · **Joined:** Tue Sep 14, 2010 4:06 am **Posts:** 698

chuckmo48 wrote:

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The real question, which Fox News didnâ€™t bother to address, is why havenâ€™t Republicans passed the bill to fund the FAA? If airport safety is such a concern, why has the funding bill been extending 18 times, but not passed. By foot-dragging on funding for the FAA House Republicans are making it less safe for Americans to fly.

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The union is not to blame for this problem. The truth is that ever since Ronald Reaganâ€™s famed gutting of the air traffic controllers, safety concerns have become more common.

http://www.politicususa.com/en/fox-news-air-traffic

Not exactly "the truth" of the matter. There has been a huge increase in air traffic between that period and 9/11. Couldn't increase the number of runways fast enough, if you'll recall. Funny though that under the Reagan, Clinton, H. Bush & W Bush administrations we didn't have people falling asleep on the job seemingly every day. Nope! That happened under the Obama administration but of course you can't handle the truth. :smt004

-={ARCLIGHT}=- · **Posted:** Sat Jul 09, 2011 11:12 am

Auto bailout chief: 'I did this all for the unions'

Moby Grape · **Joined:** Sun Nov 12, 2006 12:19 pm **Posts:** 13802

I dare sparks to debunk anything that has been presented in this article.

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Look for the Union Label...Courtesy
of the Smoking Union Brand
American Thinker, by Gary Jason

It is simply amazing how obnoxious the UAW is, and how shameless. It drove two of the three U.S. automakers into bankruptcy by its ceaseless efforts to extract ever more ridiculous increases in compensation for ever more obscene decreases in work. It reached the acme of asininity when the union forced the automakers to pay workers who should have been laid off when their plants closed -- and this to sit around in cushy halls and play cards.

Then, when the companies hit the wall, the UAW used its corrupt connection to the Obama regime to engineer blatantly unethical bankruptcy proceedings, under which the union emerged as the predominant shareholder of the new Chrysler and (next to the federal government) the second-largest shareholder of the new GM. The secured creditors got the shaft, forced to take far less than that to which they were entitled.

Then, the Obama regime, colluding with the UAW, allowed the UAW to sell off its stock to make itself whole, while the regime held on to its shares.

The result is that the taxpayers, even after the recent modest recovery of the two companies, will -- even by the corrupt regime's own reckoning -- lose a massive $14 billion when the government finally liquidates its stock. Actually, because the rigged bankruptcy gave an unprecedented tax break to the new companies -- in essence, they are allowed to take future tax write-offs of debt from the old, defunct companies -- the taxpayer eventually will lose upwards of $12 billion more

http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/08/ ... brand.html

Moby Grape · **Joined:** Sun Nov 12, 2006 12:19 pm **Posts:** 13802

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World Trade Center construction workers drinking on the job
New York Post, by Heather Haddon & Brad Hamilton

LIQUID LUNCH: Hardhats, one in an
ironworkers-union T-shirt, belly up to
Eamonn's bar during their lunch hour.

Ground Zero hardhats are hitting the hard stuff at lunch -- guzzling beers and shots at nearby bars before stumbling back to their dangerous jobs on the hallowed site, The Post has learned.

With cost overruns crossing the $2 billion mark and the 10th anniversary of 9/11 approaching, some reckless workers were seen on midday breaks last week filling their bellies with enough booze to become legally drunk.

The men then stumbled back to the site, where workers have reached the 78th floor of 1 World Trade Center as they attempt to build a virtually indestructible skyscraper.

Construction is now in a delicate phase that demands clear-headed concentration, with crews ascending to the upper floors of the 1,776-foot Tower 1 and 947-foot Tower 4 as part of a furious, round-the-clock schedule to complete four buildings, a transit hub and a memorial.

The Post spotted two dozen workers stream north from the site each day at about 11:45 a.m. and pack two Murray Street watering holes for their hourlong lunch breaks -- the same pub pilgrimage hardhats were making two years ago from Ground Zero.

Once again, many skipped food entirely in favor of liquid refreshments -- including bottles of beer, shots of whiskey and -- in the case of one wasted worker -- a pint glass nearly full of vodka.

BREAK

Experts say four to five drinks in an hour is enough for a 200-pound man to blow a .10 -- more than the state's legal limit of .08 -- on a Breathalyzer even with a full meal in his stomach.

None of the workers at Uncle Mike's ordered food.

Jessica warned a worker in a stonecutters-union shirt to be careful, saying undercover reporters had been in the bar a few years ago and exposed hardhat drinking.

He snickered.

Indeed, this isn't the first time The Post has reported on the problem.

In 2009, a crowd of World Trade Center workers were caught making a beeline to gin mills along Murray Street to throw back beers and shots -- and boasting about their reckless behavior.

"We don't have to worry until someone severs a hand," joked one drinking worker at Biddy Early's Pub & Restaurant at 43 Murray St.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manh ... z1V8dst0RQ

-={ARCLIGHT}=- · **Posted:** Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:59 pm

MICHIGAN MAN SHOT IN APPARENT ATTACK BY UNION

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