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 Post subject: Re: "Dingy" Harry Reid the Liar
PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:21 am 
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edge540 wrote:

Heh, I sure would like to see somebody PROVE that it is not demonstrably true.


Do you understand the meaning of ‘demonstrably’, edge?


Adv. 1. demonstrably - in an obvious and provable manner; "his documentary sources are demonstrably wrong"
incontrovertibly, provably



Lying Harry threw out the charge. It is up to him to ‘demonstrate’ (etymologically related to ‘demonstrably’, in case you haven’t figured that out) that the charge is true.

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Heh, I sure would like to see somebody PROVE that it is not demonstrably true.


Prove that the phony solyndra scandal....is not demonstrably true.

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WaPo Fact Checker Gives Harry Reid “Four Pinocchios” For Claim Romney Hasn’t Paid Taxes For 10 Years
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“The word’s out that he [Romney] hasn’t paid any taxes for 10 years.”

— Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), on the floor of the U.S. Senate, Aug. 2, 2012

Reid has generated a lot of controversy with his claim that presumptive GOP nominee did not pay any taxes for 10 years. He originally told the Huffington Post that a person who had invested with Bain Capital had called his office and told him this. Then, he told reporters in Nevada that “I have had a number of people tell me that.”

Reid has refused to identify his source (or sources). Romney and his campaign aides have emphatically denied the charge but Reid has stood firm. “I don’t think the burden should be on me,” he said. “The burden should be on him. He’s the one I’ve alleged has not paid any taxes.”

This whole exchange poses a fact-checking conundrum. Generally, we maintain that the person or the campaign making the charge must back it up. Reid has refused to provide any evidence, except for the (unproven) fact that someone called him up and told him something that may be true — or simply a rumor.

The Pinocchio Test

We use a reasonable person standard here. Without seeing Romney’s taxes, we cannot definitively prove Reid incorrect. But tax experts say his claim is highly improbable. Reid also has made no effort to explain why his unnamed source would be credible. So, in the absence of more information, it appears he has no basis to make his incendiary claim.

Moreover, Reid holds a position of great authority in the U.S. Congress. He should hold himself to a high standard of accuracy when making claims about political opponents.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 12:58 pm 
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Obama’s College Classmate: ‘The Obama Scandal Is at Columbia’

I am President Obama’s classmate at Columbia University, Class of ’83. I am also one of the most accurate Las Vegas oddsmakers and prognosticators. Accurate enough that I was awarded my own star on the Las Vegas Walk of Stars. And I smell something rotten in Denmark. Obama has a big skeleton in his closet. It’s his college records. Call it “gut instinct” but my gut is almost always right. Obama has a secret hidden at Columbia- and it’s a bad one that threatens to bring down his presidency. Gut instinct is how I’ve made my living for 29 years since graduating Columbia.

Obama and his infamous strategist David Axelrod understand how to play political hardball, the best it’s ever been played. Team Obama has decided to distract America’s voters by condemning Mitt Romney for not releasing enough years of his tax returns. It’s the perfect cover. Obama knows the best defense is a bold offense. Just keep attacking Mitt and blaming him for secrecy and evasion, while accusing him of having a scandal that doesn’t exist. Then ask followers like Senator Harry Reid to chase the lead. The U.S. Senate Majority Leader appears to now be making up stories out of thin air, about tax returns he knows nothing about. It’s a cynical, brilliant, and vicious strategy. Make Romney defend, so he can’t attack the real Obama scandal.

This is classic Axelrod. Obama has won several elections in his career by slandering his opponents and leaking sealed documents. Not only do these insinuations and leaks ruin the credibility and reputation of Obama’s opponents, they keep them on the defensive and off Obama’s trail of sealed documents.

By attacking Romney’s tax records, Obama’s socialist cabal creates a problem that doesn’t exist. Is the U.S. Senate Majority Leader making up stories out of thin air? You decide. But the reason for this baseless attack is clear- make Romney defend, so not only is he “off message” but it helps the media ignore the real Obama scandal.

My answer for Romney? Call Obama’s bluff.

Romney should call a press conference and issue a challenge in front of the nation. He should agree to release more of his tax returns, only if Obama unseals his college records. Simple and straight-forward. Mitt should ask “What could possibly be so embarrassing in your college records from 29 years ago that you are afraid to let America’s voters see? If it’s THAT bad, maybe it’s something the voters ought to see.” Suddenly the tables are turned. Now Obama is on the defensive.

My bet is that Obama will never unseal his records because they contain information that could destroy his chances for re-election. Once this challenge is made public, my prediction is you’ll never hear about Mitt’s tax returns ever again.

Why are the college records, of a 51-year-old President of the United States, so important to keep secret? I think I know the answer.

If anyone should have questions about Obama’s record at Columbia University, it’s me. We both graduated (according to Obama) Columbia University, Class of ’83. We were both (according to Obama) Pre-Law and Political Science majors. And I thought I knew most everyone at Columbia. I certainly thought I’d heard of all of my fellow Political Science majors. But not Obama (or as he was known then- Barry Soetoro). I never met him. Never saw him. Never even heard of him. And none of the classmates that I knew at Columbia have ever met him, saw him, or heard of him.

But don’t take my word for it. The Wall Street Journal reported in 2008 that Fox News randomly called 400 of our Columbia classmates and never found one who had ever met Obama.


Now all of this mystery could be easily and instantly dismissed if Obama released his Columbia transcripts to the media. But even after serving as President for 3 1/2 years he refuses to unseal his college records. Shouldn’t the media be as relentless in pursuit of Obama’s records as Romney’s? Shouldn’t they be digging into Obama’s past–beyond what he has written about himself–with the same boundless enthusiasm as Mitt’s?

The first question I’d ask is, if you had great grades, why would you seal your records? So let’s assume Obama got poor grades. Why not release the records? He’s president of the free world, for gosh sakes. He’s commander-in-chief of the U.S. military. Who’d care about some poor grades from three decades ago, right? So then what’s the problem? Doesn’t that make the media suspicious? Something doesn’t add up.

Secondly, if he had poor grades at Occidental, how did he get admitted to an Ivy League university in the first place? And if his grades at Columbia were awful, how’d he ever get into Harvard Law School? So again those grades must have been great, right? So why spend millions to keep them sealed?

Third, how did Obama pay for all these fancy schools without coming from a wealthy background? If he had student loans or scholarships, would he not have to maintain good grades?

I can only think of one answer that would explain this mystery.

Here’s my gut belief: Obama got a leg up by being admitted to both Occidental and Columbia as a foreign exchange student. He was raised as a young boy in Indonesia. But did his mother ever change him back to a U.S. citizen? When he returned to live with his grandparents in Hawaii or as he neared college-age preparing to apply to schools, did he ever change his citizenship back? I’m betting not.

If you could unseal Obama’s Columbia University records I believe you’d find that:

A) He rarely ever attended class.

B) His grades were not those typical of what we understand it takes to get into Harvard Law School.

C) He attended Columbia as a foreign exchange student.

D) He paid little for either undergraduate college or Harvard Law School because of foreign aid and scholarships given to a poor foreign students like this kid Barry Soetoro from Indonesia.


If you think I’m “fishing” then prove me wrong. Open up your records Mr. President. What are you afraid of?

If it’s okay for U.S. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid to go on a fishing expedition about Romney’s taxes (even though he knows absolutely nothing about them nor will release his own), then I think I can do the same thing. But as Obama’s Columbia Class of ’83 classmate, at least I have more standing to make educated guesses.

It’s time for Mitt to go on the attack and call Obama’s bluff.

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 Post subject: Re: "Dingy" Harry Reid the Liar
PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:23 pm 
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Further proof that cons are most....well, you know the rest, LOL.

Libertarian Kook Wayne Allyn Root Floats Another Wingnut Conspiracy Theory

And all the right wing media sites and blogs eagerly promote it

Charles Johnson

• Tue Aug 7, 2012

Question: How many US presidents have released their college transcripts?

Answer: Zero. That’s right, none of them.
But this doesn’t stop today’s deranged right wing from demanding to see President Obama’s transcripts — years after he was elected.

And today, the wingnuts are all raving in unison (again) about an utterly ridiculous article published at Glenn Beck’s “The Blaze” pseudo-news site by libertarian wacko Wayne Allyn Root, breathlessly titled: Root: Obama’s College Classmate: ‘The Obama Scandal Is at Columbia’.

I am President Obama’s classmate at Columbia University, Class of ’83. I am also one of the most accurate Las Vegas oddsmakers and prognosticators. Accurate enough that I was awarded my own star on the Las Vegas Walk of Stars. And I smell something rotten in Denmark. Obama has a big skeleton in his closet. It’s his college records. Call it “gut instinct” but my gut is almost always right. Obama has a secret hidden at Columbia- and it’s a bad one that threatens to bring down his presidency. Gut instinct is how I’ve made my living for 29 years since graduating Columbia.

This is how stupid the right wing has become. Root actually says outright in this article that he never met Obama — never even heard of him at Columbia, in fact. He has absolutely no evidence for his overheated accusations. And that, in the delusional wingnut universe, means Obama must have done something illegal or unethical, probably involving affirmative action.

Here’s my gut belief: Obama got a leg up by being admitted to both Occidental and Columbia as a foreign exchange student. He was raised as a young boy in Indonesia. But did his mother ever change him back to a U.S. citizen? When he returned to live with his grandparents in Hawaii or as he neared college-age preparing to apply to schools, did he ever change his citizenship back? I’m betting not.

If you could unseal Obama’s Columbia University records I believe you’d find that:

A) He rarely ever attended class.

B) His grades were not those typical of what we understand it takes to get into Harvard Law School.

C) He attended Columbia as a foreign exchange student.

D) He paid little for either undergraduate college or Harvard Law School because of foreign aid and scholarships given to a poor foreign students like this kid Barry Soetoro from Indonesia.

The right wing loves this kind of brain-dead conspiracy theory, especially when you add in that little hint of racism.

And it couldn’t be more obvious that the reason they’re all freaking out in unison is to divert attention away from Mitt Romney’s refusal to release financial information.

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 Post subject: Re: "Dingy" Harry Reid the Liar
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Obama’s College Classmate: ‘The Obama Scandal Is at Columbia


happy jack wrote:
in the real world, the burden of proof falls upon the accuser - always, with no exceptions.

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 Post subject: Re: "Dingy" Harry Reid the Liar
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chuckmo48 wrote:
-={ARCLIGHT}=- wrote:
Obama’s College Classmate: ‘The Obama Scandal Is at Columbia


happy jack wrote:
in the real world, the burden of proof falls upon the accuser - always, with no exceptions.


I have not offered a single comment about the Columbia 'scandal', and I still stand by this statement:

" .... in the real world, the burden of proof falls upon the accuser - always, with no exceptions."

So, Chuckles - what ridiculous point are you trying to make?

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 Post subject: Re: "Dingy" Harry Reid the Liar
PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 5:57 am 
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'Call Obama's Bluff!'
American Thinker, by Thomas Lifson


President Obama has now placed the documentary history of a presidential candidate on the table as a legitimate demand. His stooge Harry Reid has demanded 10 years of financial documentation from Mitt Romney. Wayne Root, who was Obama's class of '83 classmate at Columbia and a Libertarian Party vice presidential nominee, lays out very clearly how Mitt Romney can spring a trap on the Obama campaign's desperate gambit. From The Blaze:

Call Obama's bluff.

Romney should call a press conference and issue a challenge in front of the nation. He should agree to release more of his tax returns, only if Obama unseals his college records. Simple and straight-forward. Mitt should ask "What could possibly be so embarrassing in your college records from 29 years ago that you are afraid to let America's voters see? If it's THAT bad, maybe it's something the voters ought to see." Suddenly the tables are turned. Now Obama is on the defensive.



Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/201 ... z22xGg0xJk


Could be a bad idea too as DUMBO would surely provide mediocre forgeries showing his stellar (''phony'') grades.

He is in fact, a proven liar, and a fraud,...it's WHY the liberals and parasites support him in the first place.

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Question: How many US presidents have released their college transcripts?

Answer: Zero. That’s right, none of them.


Thats a lie. :smt005 Yet, the real question is why his records are SEALED. Seeing as NO other president has sealed their college records....access can be obtained. So why don't you tell us WHY he is the first POTUS to do so.. :smt006

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400 members of the Columbia University Class of 1983 were surveyed and it was revealed no one, not one, ever knew Barack Obama or ever remember seeing him on the campus or in a classroom. Likewise, the team of professional investigators hired by Dr. James Manning, in 2010, revealed absolutely no evidence of a Barack Obama/Barry Soetoro ever attending Columbia University during the years 1981, 1982, 1983 or 1984.

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happy jack wrote:
I have not offered a single comment about the Columbia 'scandal', and I still stand by this statement:
" .... in the real world, the burden of proof falls upon the accuser - always, with no exceptions." - what point are you trying to make?

...That you must pick and choose when you want to see the "burden of proof"...too funny...

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400 members of the Columbia University Class of 1983 were surveyed and it was revealed no one, not one, ever knew Barack Obama or ever remember seeing him on the campus or in a classroom. Likewise, the team of professional investigators hired by Dr. James Manning, in 2010, revealed absolutely no evidence of a Barack Obama/Barry Soetoro ever attending Columbia University during the years 1981, 1982, 1983 or 1984.

happy jack wrote:
" .... in the real world, the burden of proof falls upon the accuser - always, with no exceptions."

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...and he hasn't released this year's taxes yet...but not to worry...

Mitt Romney’s Tax Returns Are Irrelevant to the Presidential Race
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/08/06/mitt-romney-s-tax-returns-are-irrelevant-to-the-presidential-race.html

Does that apply to birth certificates, college grades, and churches attended? Or does it only apply to democrats...conservative hypocrisy...

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chuckmo48 wrote:
happy jack wrote:
I have not offered a single comment about the Columbia 'scandal', and I still stand by this statement:
" .... in the real world, the burden of proof falls upon the accuser - always, with no exceptions." - what point are you trying to make?

...That you must pick and choose when you want to see the "burden of proof"...too funny...


You do realize that I am not the one putting forth this Columbia scandal, don't you?
And seriously, Chuckles - an accusation made by some obscure blogger as opposed to an accusation made by a Senate leader?
Really?

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I'll take Reid over willard any day:

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