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 Post subject: Re: HURRICANE SANDY
PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:30 pm 
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What was that again Mittens?

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Mitt Romney: Federal relief spending is "immoral."
Filed under things you don't want on the record as a hurricane threatens 50 million voters right before an election.

Yes it certainly is immoral to spend money on disaster relief when you could save all of that money and provide tax breaks to the rich. Don't you agree?

By the way Sandy is currently gaining strength and could impact up to 50 million Americans. Right now President Obama is getting relief efforts underway and has promised to cut through the red tape and get help to those afflicted as quickly as possible.

This is not official but I do believe that Romney's response to the storm was something along the lines of "Well can't those people just leave the area and weather the storm in one of their other houses?"

Damn right, disaster relief should be privatized so somebody makes a profit from a disaster.
See Dick Cheney-Halliburton


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Caught Artie lying about this on the other board, and caught edge lying about it on this board.
Shouldn't really surprise anyone - that is what they do best.
Romney did not call disaster relief spending "immoral". He was expounding on the matter of leaving future generations with a huge debt when the moderator spouted something about disaster relief, which Romney clearly ignored and talked right through, continuing on the topic of leaving our children in debt. Our childrens' debt is what he called "immoral", and anyone possessing even a shred of honesty would see that very clearly. Unfortunately, we are dealing with those who don't even know the meaning of the word 'honesty', much less those who possess any.

Bullshit.
You lie. The topic was disaster relief.

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KING: What else, Governor Romney? You’ve been a chief executive of a state. I was just in Joplin, Missouri. I’ve been in Mississippi and Louisiana and Tennessee and other communities dealing with whether it’s the tornadoes, the flooding, and worse. FEMA is about to run out of money, and there are some people who say do it on a case-by-case basis and some people who say, you know, maybe we’re learning a lesson here that the states should take on more of this role. How do you deal with something like that?

ROMNEY: Absolutely. Every time you have an occasion to take something from the federal government and send it back to the states, that’s the right direction. And if you can go even further and send it back to the private sector, that’s even better.

Instead of thinking in the federal budget, what we should cut — we should ask ourselves the opposite question. What should we keep? We should take all of what we’re doing at the federal level and say, what are the things we’re doing that we don’t have to do? And those things we’ve got to stop doing, because we’re borrowing $1.6 trillion more this year than we’re taking in. We cannot…

KING: Including disaster relief, though?

ROMNEY: We cannot — we cannot afford to do those things without jeopardizing the future for our kids. It is simply immoral, in my view, for us to continue to rack up larger and larger debts and pass them on to our kids, knowing full well that we’ll all be dead and gone before it’s paid off. It makes no sense at all.

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Go ahead jack, please tell us what your POS means by "those things."
Your hero clearly meant that spending on disaster relief would lead to debt.


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Mitt Romney Refuses To Talk About FEMA After Hurricane Sandy Event



What a spineless, good for nothing piece of sh!t, WOW.
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Mitt Romney refused to answer reporters' questions about how he would handle the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), after a Tuesday "storm relief" event in Ohio for Hurricane Sandy.

From the Romney pool report:

TV pool asked Romney at least five times whether he would eliminate FEMA as president/what he would do with FEMA. He ignored the qs but they are audible on cam. The music stopped at points and the qs would have been audible to him.


A follow-up report noted the specific questions Romney ignored, as he was collecting hurricane supplies following his event:

"Gov are you going to eliminate FEMA?" a print pooler shouted, receiving no response.
Wires reporters asked more questions about FEMA that were ignored.

Romney kept coming over near pool to pick up more water. He ignored these questions:

"Gov are you going to see some storm damage?"

"Gov has [New Jersey Gov.] Chris Christie invited you to come survey storm damage?"

"Gov you've been asked 14 times, why are you refusing to answer the question?"


During a GOP primary debate last year, Romney had said he supported the idea of states and private sector groups taking over responsibility for disaster relief.

"Every time you have an occasion to take something from the federal government and send it back to the states, that's the right direction," he said. "And if you can go even further and send it back to the private sector, that's even better. Instead of thinking, 'In the federal budget, what we should cut?' we should ask the opposite question: 'What should we keep?'"

"We cannot -- we cannot afford to do those things without jeopardizing the future for our kids," Romney continued, when asked specifically about disaster relief. "It is simply immoral, in my view, for us to continue to rack up larger and larger debts and pass them on to our kids, knowing full well that we'll all be dead and gone before it's paid off. It makes no sense at all."

Those comments were highlighted in the wake of Hurricane Sandy as a sign of how Romney might respond to natural disasters. His campaign quickly clarified that Romney's emergency management response would include FEMA
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 Post subject: Re: HURRICANE SANDY
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at least 30 Americans dead from this storm and this is what you post? what an ignorant POS you are![/b]

Remember, this is coming from the guy who forgot about The first World Trade Center bombing, as well as the Iranian Hostage Crisis.

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 Post subject: Re: HURRICANE SANDY
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edge540 wrote:
Mitt Romney: Federal relief spending is "immoral."


Bullshit.
You lie. The topic was disaster relief.



Yes, the topic was disaster relief. But he did not call disaster relief "immoral". Watch the video - this time without a blindfold and without cotton in your ears.

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 Post subject: Re: HURRICANE SANDY
PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 6:24 am 
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sparks wrote:
at least 30 Americans dead from this storm and this is what you post? what an ignorant POS you are!


go fück yourself you hypocritical worthless fat assed piece of ignorant union shït....

and btw....you own nothing....however the liberal democrat union cock you suck on and swallow daily OWNS you...LOL!!!!!

and so do those fücktards who stole taxpayer money to send your kid to college.

unless you plan on NEVER paying it back

typical union liberal ass hole thief...

takes all and gives nothing.

can't even name ONE of those charities you lie about donating plenty of your time and money to.

nothing but a fücking liar.

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 Post subject: Re: HURRICANE SANDY
PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:00 am 
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happy jack wrote:
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Mitt Romney: Federal relief spending is "immoral."


Bullshit.
You lie. The topic was disaster relief.



Yes, the topic was disaster relief. But he did not call disaster relief "immoral". Watch the video - this time without a blindfold and without cotton in your ears.


You're absolutely right, your hero said that racking up debt BY spending money on disaster relief is immoral and that disaster relief should be left up to each individual state or even better yet it should be privatized. Your boy really has a knack for sticking his foot in his mouth, doesn't he?
Now you know why this worthless piece of garbage will get his ass handed to him next week.

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Mitt's team scrambles with aftermath of FEMA comment and 'Romnesia'
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October 31, 2012
Words have a way of coming back to haunt Mitt Romney, especially when he says them in front of television cameras.

As the nation braced itself for Hurricane Sandy to slam into the East Coast, Romney's campaign was busily issuing denials to clean up an impression left by last year's "severely conservative" Romney long before he recently was replaced by Moderate Mitt.

No, Team Romney insisted, their candidate does not really want to abolish the Federal Emergency Management Agency, even if his words make him sound like he does.

Hey, we're talking about the newly restored Moderate Mitt, the candidate whose beliefs are like Chicago's weather: If you don't like 'em, just wait a few minutes.

The words in question were spoken at a June 2011 Republican primary debate in New Hampshire. When the former Massachusetts governor was asked by moderator John King of CNN whether he agreed with those who believe management of emergencies should be returned to the states, Romney not only agreed but went even further. He would turn over as many functions as possible to private, profit-driven companies.

"Absolutely," Romney said. "Every time you have an occasion to take something from the federal government and send it back to the states, that's the right direction. And if you can go even further and send it back to the private sector, that's even better."

Odd sentiments, perhaps, for the moderate one-term governor who fathered Massachusetts' state-run health insurance plan. But not for the rebranded "severely conservative" Mitt. He's the Romney who won the Republican presidential nomination and passionately plans to "repeal Obamacare," the national health insurance plan that President Barack Obama based on Romneycare.

The Huffington Post resurrected and highlighted video of that sound bite under the headline "Mitt Romney in GOP Debate: Shut Down Federal Disaster Agency, Send Responsibility To The States."

Team Romney immediately issued a clarifying statement. No, Romney would not abolish FEMA, the campaign assures us, although he would transfer an undisclosed amount of its functions — and, presumably, expenses — to the states.

"Gov. Romney believes that states should be in charge of emergency management in responding to storms and other natural disasters in their jurisdictions," Romney spokesman Ryan Williams said in a statement to Politico. "As the first responders, states are in the best position to aid affected individuals and communities, and to direct resources and assistance to where they are needed most. This includes help from the federal government and FEMA."

Is that spin of hurricane proportions or what? That's a description of FEMA that sounds comfortably close to what FEMA already does. Moderate Mitt, the Romney who, thanks to what Obama calls "Romnesia," seems almost to have forgotten the right-wing-sounding Mitt from the primaries.

But it also is a FEMA that sounds uncomfortably like the buck-passing agency that was nowhere to be seen in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina as thousands of homeless New Orleans residents begged for help for several days on live television.

As Hurricane Sandy roared up the East Coast, Romney might also like to forget his praise of the cost-cutting budget proposed by his running mate, House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan of Wisconsin. The Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, a liberal Washington think tank, found that Ryan's proposed cuts in funding for nondefense discretionary programs like FEMA's disaster relief would be three times as deep as the widely dreaded 7.3 percent across-the-board cuts scheduled under "sequestration," the automatic spending cuts ordered by the Budget Control Act that ended the 2011 debt ceiling crisis.

I don't know how Romney handled disasters during his single term as governor, but Republican Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey gave high praise to Obama's response after Hurricane Sandy. After the storm left millions of people without power in his state, Christie said on NBC's "Today" show that he had spoken with Obama several times and the federal response "has been great."

If Christie becomes a presidential candidate, as many people hope he will, I hope he remembers the practical lessons of governing a state in a time of disaster. When people desperately need help from Washington, they don't want to hear about politics.


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 Post subject: Re: HURRICANE SANDY
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A Big Storm Requires Big Government

Most Americans have never heard of the National Response Coordination Center, but they’re lucky it exists on days of lethal winds and flood tides. The center is the war room of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, where officials gather to decide where rescuers should go, where drinking water should be shipped, and how to assist hospitals that have to evacuate.

Disaster coordination is one of the most vital functions of “big government,” which is why Mitt Romney wants to eliminate it. At a Republican primary debate last year, Mr. Romney was asked whether emergency management was a function that should be returned to the states. He not only agreed, he went further.

“Absolutely,” he said. “Every time you have an occasion to take something from the federal government and send it back to the states, that’s the right direction. And if you can go even further and send it back to the private sector, that’s even better.” Mr. Romney not only believes that states acting independently can handle the response to a vast East Coast storm better than Washington, but that profit-making companies can do an even better job. He said it was “immoral” for the federal government to do all these things if it means increasing the debt.

It’s an absurd notion, but it’s fully in line with decades of Republican resistance to federal emergency planning. FEMA, created by President Jimmy Carter, was elevated to cabinet rank in the Bill Clinton administration, but was then demoted by President George W. Bush, who neglected it, subsumed it into the Department of Homeland Security, and placed it in the control of political hacks. The disaster of Hurricane Katrina was just waiting to happen.

The agency was put back in working order by President Obama, but ideology still blinds Republicans to its value. Many don’t like the idea of free aid for poor people, or they think people should pay for their bad decisions, which this week includes living on the East Coast.

Over the last two years, Congressional Republicans have forced a 43 percent reduction in the primary FEMA grants that pay for disaster preparedness. Representatives Paul Ryan, Eric Cantor and other House Republicans have repeatedly tried to refuse FEMA’s budget requests when disasters are more expensive than predicted, or have demanded that other valuable programs be cut to pay for them. The Ryan budget, which Mr. Romney praised as “an excellent piece of work,” would result in severe cutbacks to the agency, as would the Republican-instigated sequester, which would cut disaster relief by 8.2 percent on top of earlier reductions.

Does Mr. Romney really believe that financially strapped states would do a better job than a properly functioning federal agency? Who would make decisions about where to send federal aid? Or perhaps there would be no federal aid, and every state would bear the burden of billions of dollars in damages. After Mr. Romney’s 2011 remarks recirculated on Monday, his nervous campaign announced that he does not want to abolish FEMA, though he still believes states should be in charge of emergency management. Those in Hurricane Sandy’s path are fortunate that, for now, that ideology has not replaced sound policy.

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 Post subject: Re: HURRICANE SANDY
PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:16 am 
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A Big Storm Requires Big Government



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Hoboken Mayor says 25k residents are
trapped by flood waters filled with
live wires and raw sewage as she
begs the National Guard for help

Daily Mail [UK], by Peter Rugg


The National Guard arrived Tuesday evening to help residents of a heavily-flooded city after the Hudson River broke its banks.

New Jersey National Guard members were in Hoboken to help an estimated 25,000 people in the stricken town.

They used high-wheeled vehicles to help evacuate residents and deliver supplies to flooded areas in the mile-square city.

Hoboken was hard hit by Superstorm Sandy, which flooded roughly half the town of 50,000 people.

Mayor Dawn Zimmer had pleaded for the Guard's help late Monday, saying thousands of residents were stuck in their homes.

'We have two payloaders and we're trying to go in where we can to help people, but we have small city streets and payloaders cannot fit down them', Zimmer said Tuesday night on MSNBC.


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 Post subject: Re: HURRICANE SANDY
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Mittens “non-partisan” charity relief rally.
The man is shameless. What a worthless, fuc*ing, cowardly clown.

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As the East Coast and parts of Ohio struggled to regroup in the devastating wake of “Superstorm” Sandy, the Romney campaign hastily transformed a scheduled victory rally in Dayton, Ohio into a non-political “storm relief event” on Tuesday. According to BuzzFeed, the campaign encouraged supporters to bring hurricane relief supplies and “deliver the bags of canned goods, packages of diapers, and cases of water bottles to the candidate, who would be perched behind a table along with a slew of volunteers and his Ohio right-hand man, Senator Rob Portman.”

Just to be safe, campaign aides reportedly spent $5,000 at a local Wal-Mart on supplies that could be put on display. When supporters arrived at the rally-turned-relief event, they were treated to the 10-minute video about Romney’s life, which was first unveiled at the RNC. The event ended with supporters lined up to hand over supplies and meet Romney. But according to BuzzFeed, this donation process was also staged:

Empty-handed supporters pled for entrance, with one woman asking, “What if we dropped off our donations up front?”

The volunteer gestured toward a pile of groceries conveniently stacked near the candidate. “Just grab something,” he said.

Two teenage boys retrieved a jar of peanut butter each, and got in line. When it was their turn, they handed their “donations” to Romney. He took them, smiled, and offered an earnest “Thank you.”

The Red Cross, meanwhile, said they were grateful for the supplies but encouraged people to donate money or blood as a more efficient way to help the relief effort.

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 Post subject: Re: HURRICANE SANDY
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While edge believes in the nanny state...we believe in this... :D

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Never mind that Romney has actually been a governor and knows what federal policies and programs both help and hinder state governments. His message was simply this: Not every good solution comes from the labyrinth maze of centralized bureaucracy in Washington, D.C. He was saying those closest to the problem - states and localities - are better suited to handle their own business in times of trouble, not some detached bureaucrat in some remote office at some bloated bureaucracy hundreds or thousands of miles away.

This isn't - nor should it be - about politics; state disaster agencies can also be bloated, dismissive and unresponsive. This should be about how unprepared too many Americans are in this day and age of the Nanny State, and how come too many "influential" institutions in our country seem to want to perpetuate that mindset, while demonizing anyone who dares to suggest that individuals are responsible for themselves, not government.

Prior to Sandy's landfall, people were warned to get out, to get prepared. But many didn't; now millions are without power and lacking in basic services. Why didn't they just leave?

Because they don't know how to take charge of their own situation. They don't know how to take care of themselves; they are so used to having others "take care" of them. They figured, no matter what, someone would be along presently to provide necessities.

Newspapers like The New York Times act as enablers for this kind of dependency mindset, and in the end, that makes us a weaker nation, a weaker society.


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What a steaming load of crap. Typical ridiculous conservative nonsense that makes absolutely no sense.

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While Mittens keeps campaigning, the President does his job.

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While Mittens keeps campaigning, the President does his job.

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Yeah, he doesn't want to make the same mistake twice...LOL....the lefts last chance to garner votes...this is just too damn funny....LACOL.... :smt006

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Tiny telling Willard to go F himself on Fox "News" is even funnier.

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“The president was great last night,” Christie continued. “He said he would get it done. At 2 a.m., I got a call from FEMA to answer a couple of final questions and then he signed the declaration this morning. So I have to give the president great credit. He’s been on the phone with me three times in the last 24 hours. He’s been very attentive, and anything that I’ve asked for, he’s gotten to me. So, I thank the president publicly for that. He’s done — as far as I’m concerned — a great job for New Jersey.”

Fox News co-host Steve Doocy wondered when Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney was going to get some of the same benefits from the hurricane with a photo op in disaster-stricken New Jersey towns.

“Over the last couple of months, you have appeared throughout the country, Governor, on behalf of Mitt Romney,” Doocy remarked to Christie. “[W]e hear that perhaps Mr. Romney may do some storm-related events. Is there any possibility that Gov. Romney may go to New Jersey to tour some of the damage with you?”

“I have no idea, nor am I the least bit concerned or interested,” Christie replied, immediately shutting down the idea. “I’ve got a job to do here in New Jersey that’s much bigger than presidential politics and I could [sic] care less about any of that stuff.”

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Thats twice you posted that up claiming he told Romney to go f himself. Just goes to show how goofy you really are.... :smt005 :smt006

Go ahead and show us where he said that ...goofy. :smt006

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