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OBAMA'S NSA SNOOPERS SUCK DATA 'FROM 50 COMPANIES'
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He told you fools that he was going to have the "most transparent administration ever" and you dopes fell for it.
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Analysts at the National Security Agency can now secretly access real-time user data provided by as many as 50 American companies, ranging from credit rating agencies to internet service providers, two government officials familiar with the arrangements said.

Several of the companies have provided records continuously since 2006, while others have given the agency sporadic access, these officials said. These officials disclosed the number of participating companies in order to provide context for a series of disclosures about the NSA's domestic collection policies. The officials, contacted independently, repeatedly said that "domestic collection" does not mean that the target is based in the U.S. or is a U.S. citizen; rather, it refers only to the origin of the data.

The Wall Street Journal reported today that U.S. credit card companies had also provided customer information. The officials would not disclose the names of the companies because, they said, doing so would provide U.S. enemies with a list of companies to avoid. They declined to confirm the list of participants in an internet monitoring program revealed by the Washington Post and the Guardian, but both confirmed that the program existed.

"The idea is to create a mosaic. We get a tip. We vet it. Then we mine the data for intelligence," one of the officials said.

In a statement, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said that programs collect communications "pursuant to section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, " and "cannot be used to intentionally target any U.S. citizen, any other U.S person, or anyone within the United States."

He called the leaks "reprehensible" and said the program "is among the most important" sources of "valuable" intelligence information the government takes in.

One of the officials who spoke to me said that because data types are not standardized, the NSA needs several different collection tools, of which PRISM, disclosed today by the Guardian and the Washington Post, is one. PRISM works well because it is able to handle several different types of data streams using different basic encryption methods, the person said. It is a "front end" system, or software, that allows an NSA analyst to search through the data and pull out items of significance, which are then stored in any number of databases. PRISM works with another NSA program to encrypt and remove from the analysts' screen data that a computer or the analyst deems to be from a U.S. person who is not the subject of the investigation, the person said. A FISA order is required to continue monitoring and analyzing these datasets, although the monitoring can start before an application package is submitted to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court.

From the different types of data, including their credit card purchases, the locations they sign in to the internet from, and even local police arrest logs, the NSA can track people it considers terrorism or espionage suspects in near-real time. An internet geo-location cell is on constant standby to help analysts determine where a subject logs in from. Most of the collection takes place on subjects outside the U.S, but a large chunk of the world's relevant communication passes through American companies with servers on American soil. So the NSA taps in locally to get at targets globally.

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Tiger1 wrote:
Commie In Chief. :x


You wouldn't know a commie if it bit you in the butt .....you idiot!

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Several of the companies have provided records continuously since 2006, while others have given the agency sporadic access, these officials said. These officials disclosed the number of participating companies in order to provide context for a series of disclosures about the NSA's domestic collection policies. The officials, contacted independently, repeatedly said that "domestic collection" does not mean that the target is based in the U.S. or is a U.S. citizen; rather, it refers only to the origin of the data.


This has been going on since the Patriot Act was pushed through by both parties, and supported by both parties for more than a decade now. Operations of one type or another have probably been going on much longer and supported by both parties.

The fact that the Federal Government has been going after whistle blowers for both Government leaks and Corporate Leaks, is pure Fascism and not Communism.

But you are too dumb to understand that ............

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The fact that the Federal Government has been going after whistle blowers for both Government leaks and Corporate Leaks, is pure Fascism and not Communism.

But you are too dumb to understand that ............


Well then, by that logic I guess the communist don't seem to get their panties in a twist when the Commander In Chief is a Fascist as long as he is also a democrat.

Every Republican President is labeled a fascist by the liberals in America, but when there is actively a fascist in the White House and he is a democrat they turn a blind eye.

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mattlap wrote:
The fact that the Federal Government has been going after whistle blowers for both Government leaks and Corporate Leaks, is pure Fascism and not Communism.

But you are too dumb to understand that ............


Well then, by that logic I guess the communist don't seem to get their panties in a twist when the Commander In Chief is a Fascist as long as he is also a democrat.

Every Republican President is labeled a fascist by the liberals in America, but when there is actively a fascist in the White House and he is a democrat they turn a blind eye.


We have slid towards fascism every president since Hoover. It is just accelerating every administration since Nixon.

The mix of corporate interests and government transcends any political party.

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We have slid towards fascism every president since Hoover. It is just accelerating every administration since Nixon.

The mix of corporate interests and government transcends any political party.

That seems to be every liberals mantra since Barry's scandals have been exposed.

So how is that whole "hopey" "changey" thing working out for all you Barry voters?

Still drinking the koolaid when he tells you
not to worry about the tyranny of big government?

If anyone has failed to notice chuckmo and UNedgeUKATED, who haven't an original thought in their heads have abandoned trying to defend Barry's lurch toward tyranny.

Think they'd be this quite on this subject if Bush were in the WH?

Wake up America...you're dreaming.

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mattlap wrote:
We have slid towards fascism every president since Hoover. It is just accelerating every administration since Nixon.

The mix of corporate interests and government transcends any political party.

That seems to be every liberals mantra since Barry's scandals have been exposed.

So how is that whole "hopey" "changey" thing working out for all you Barry voters?

Still drinking the koolaid when he tells you
not to worry about the tyranny of big government?

If anyone has failed to notice chuckmo and UNedgeUKATED, who haven't an original thought in their heads have abandoned trying to defend Barry's lurch toward tyranny.

Think they'd be this quite on this subject if Bush were in the WH?

Wake up America...you're dreaming.


But this would still be happening if a republican was in the White House.

Neither gives a crap about the citizens, and I don't give a crap about either or the us government.

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But this would still be happening if a republican was in the White House.

#1 You do NOT know that, you are projecting. But if itwere you and the LMSM would be all over it like white on rice.

Yes?

#2 Barry is a tyrant and using the office to target his domestic political enemies, and the entire left is giving him a pass on it because they don't see a problem with it if a democrat does it.

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Tiger1 wrote:
Commie In Chief. :x


You wouldn't know a commie if it bit you in the butt .....you idiot!

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Several of the companies have provided records continuously since 2006, while others have given the agency sporadic access, these officials said. These officials disclosed the number of participating companies in order to provide context for a series of disclosures about the NSA's domestic collection policies. The officials, contacted independently, repeatedly said that "domestic collection" does not mean that the target is based in the U.S. or is a U.S. citizen; rather, it refers only to the origin of the data.


This has been going on since the Patriot Act was pushed through by both parties, and supported by both parties for more than a decade now. Operations of one type or another have probably been going on much longer and supported by both parties.

The fact that the Federal Government has been going after whistle blowers for both Government leaks and Corporate Leaks, is pure Fascism and not Communism.

But you are too dumb to understand that ............



I stand by what I say. We have a commie dictator in D.C. You need to pull your head out of your dupa.


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-={ARCLIGHT}=- wrote:
mattlap wrote:
But this would still be happening if a republican was in the White House.

#1 You do NOT know that, you are projecting. But if itwere you and the LMSM would be all over it like white on rice.

Yes?

#2 Barry is a tyrant and using the office to target his domestic political enemies, and the entire left is giving him a pass on it because they don't see a problem with it if a democrat does it.


I don't think it is projecting when both of Obama's former challengers were vehement supporters of the Patriot Act and the use of warrantless searches when it came to National Security.

All of these programs came about as parts of the Patriot Act. The so called internet searches started in 2007 under GWB and continued and expanded under Obama. The Republicans on the Intelligence Committee have done nothing but defend the program this week.

Why should I believe that it would be any different no matter what idiot of either party sits in the Oval Office?

The entire US Government at this point is nothing but Tyrants. Tyrants on the Right and Tyrants on the Left ..........

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Same O .... same O.
When are these Libs going to admit that the Great Black Hope is a failure????

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"Often the best source of information about waste, fraud, and abuse in government is an existing government employee committed to public integrity and willing to speak out. Such acts of courage and patriotism, which can sometimes save lives and often save taxpayer dollars, should be encouraged rather than stifled as they have been during the Bush administration. We need to empower federal employees as watchdogs of wrongdoing and partners in performance. will strengthen whistleblower laws to protect federal workers who expose waste, fraud, and abuse of authority in government. " ~ Barack Obama, 2008.

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Same O .... same O.
When are these Libs going to admit that the Great Black Hope is a failure????

Lois

Thanks Lois, conservative morons like you, Arc and Tiger keep on proving that you folks are the most ignorant and stupid creatures on the planet...and kudos for playing the race card.

Job well done.

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If anyone has failed to notice chuckmo and UNedgeUKATED, who haven't an original thought in their heads have abandoned trying to defend Barry's lurch toward tyranny.

Wrong again, moron.
I really don't have to defend Barry, he handed Mitt Romney his ass in November and that is why I don't waste time with idiot mouth breathing trolls like you. :smt006
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New Poll Says American Public is Fine With NSA Surveillance Mon Jun. 10, 2013

Pew is out with the first poll asking the public what it thinks of the NSA phone record surveillance program. Unsurprisingly, the public thinks it's just peachy, by a margin of 56-41. What is surprising, though, is the epic size of the change in partisan attitudes since 2006. Back then, Republicans approved of the (recently revealed) NSA program by 38 points more than Democrats. Now, Republicans disapprove by 12 points more than Democrats.

This isn't the last word on the subject. The wording of the question is different this year compared to 2006, and that might account for a bit of the difference. But probably not much. Basically, when Bush was president, Republicans thought that monitoring telephone traffic was a great idea. Now, when Obama is president, they're not so sure—but Democrats think it's fine and dandy. This is about as remarkable a turnaround as I've seen on any subject in recent years.
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2 ... rveillance



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No one with a brain was surprised by the supposed breaking news that the government mines telephone metadata. It's been going on for at least since the 1980s, when computers started getting powerful enough to do it. Listening to calls requires a warrant, but simply recording which numbers called which numbers has never required a warrant. If someone thinks that's a scandal, they are either remarkably naive or remarkably partisan. If they decided doing it was a scandal only after President Obama took office, then those would be the dishonest partisans.

Now, FISA courts should be more open, and have more civilian oversight. There's a potential for abuse. However, there's no evidence of any actual abuse, despite the fevered fantasies of the conservatives who believe President Obama is personally listening in on their 1-900-HOOTERS calls. And there are questions of how cozy big telecoms should be with government. However, metadata mining is necessary, and it's not going away, so the goal is to keep it supervised, instead of wailing about how scandalous it is.

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...and, edge. No comment re....

"Often the best source of information about waste, fraud, and abuse in government is an existing government employee committed to public integrity and willing to speak out. Such acts of courage and patriotism, which can sometimes save lives and often save taxpayer dollars, should be encouraged rather than stifled as they have been during the Bush administration. We need to empower federal employees as watchdogs of wrongdoing and partners in performance. will strengthen whistleblower laws to protect federal workers who expose waste, fraud, and abuse of authority in government. " ~ Barack Obama, 2008.

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