edge540 wrote:
Are you really that dense?
Nobody is listening to anything.
Simply recording which numbers called which numbers by a supercomputer is not unconstitutional any more for the government than it is for the phone company.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57589495-38/nsa-admits-listening-to-u.s-phone-calls-without-warrants/Quote:
Rep. Jerrold Nadler, a New York Democrat, disclosed this week that during a secret briefing to members of Congress, he was told that the contents of a phone call could be accessed "simply based on an analyst deciding that."
If the NSA wants "to listen to the phone," an analyst's decision is sufficient, without any other legal authorization required, Nadler said he learned. "I was rather startled," said Nadler, an attorney and congressman who serves on the House Judiciary committee.
Not only does this disclosure shed more light on how the NSA's formidable eavesdropping apparatus works domestically, it also suggests the Justice Department has secretly interpreted federal surveillance law to permit thousands of low-ranking analysts to eavesdrop on phone calls.
Because the same legal standards that apply to phone calls also apply to e-mail messages, text messages, and instant messages, Nadler's disclosure indicates the NSA analysts could also access the contents of Internet communications without going before a court and seeking approval.
Quote:
It's factual information that Obama has authorized drone strikes against US citizens
edge540 wrote:
happen to be terrorists that have threatened to kill me. Sorry, I have no problem killing terrorists that want to kill me and I really don't give a sh*t if they are US citizens or not.
So for all your complaining about GWB's disregard for the constitution, you have no care for it yourself. The US constitution guarantees us a trial by our peers, not the ability for our government to terminate us based on some opaque guidelines issued by the president and his intelligence apparatus.
Quote:
and now the expansion of spying on US citizens communications.
edge540 wrote:
you're showing how dense you are. This has been going on since 2007, nothing has been expanded.
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/Quote:
A project of immense secrecy, it is the final piece in a complex puzzle assembled over the past decade. Its purpose: to intercept, decipher, analyze, and store vast swaths of the world’s communications as they zap down from satellites and zip through the underground and undersea cables of international, foreign, and domestic networks. The heavily fortified $2 billion center should be up and running in September 2013. Flowing through its servers and routers and stored in near-bottomless databases will be all forms of communication, including the complete contents of private emails, cell phone calls, and Google searches, as well as all sorts of personal data trails—parking receipts, travel itineraries, bookstore purchases, and other digital “pocket litter.â€
Obama and Clapper from the NSA are playing legalese word games. He can try and claim that the NSA is not committing unconstitutional searches of phone and emails, but at the same time the NSA is paying outside firms such as Booz Allen, Narus and Verit to do it without restraint or oversight. It's bullshit and there is no other way to spin it!