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 Post subject: Shhh ... don't call it 'Global Warming' anymore
PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 7:14 pm 
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If people continue to refuse to buy the bullshit you are selling, then it’s high time to stop calling it ‘bullshit’, and start calling it ‘Pasture Fruit’.


http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/02/us/po ... .html?_r=1

Seeking to Save the Planet, With a Thesaurus

By JOHN M. BRODER
Published: May 1, 2009

WASHINGTON — The problem with global warming, some environmentalists believe, is “global warming.”
The term turns people off, fostering images of shaggy-haired liberals, economic sacrifice and complex scientific disputes, according to extensive polling and focus group sessions conducted by ecoAmerica, a nonprofit environmental marketing and messaging firm in Washington.
Instead of grim warnings about global warming, the firm advises, talk about “our deteriorating atmosphere.” Drop discussions of carbon dioxide and bring up “moving away from the dirty fuels of the past.” Don’t confuse people with cap and trade; use terms like “cap and cash back” or “pollution reduction refund.”
EcoAmerica has been conducting research for the last several years to find new ways to frame environmental issues and so build public support for climate change legislation and other initiatives. A summary of the group’s latest findings and recommendations was accidentally sent by e-mail to a number of news organizations by someone who sat in this week on a briefing intended for government officials and environmental leaders.

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PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 8:48 am 
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happy jack wrote:
Seeking to Save the Planet, With a Thesaurus

By JOHN M. BRODER
Published: May 1, 2009

WASHINGTON — The problem with global warming, some environmentalists believe, is “global warming.”
The term turns people off, fostering images of shaggy-haired liberals, economic sacrifice and complex scientific disputes, according to extensive polling and focus group sessions conducted by ecoAmerica, a nonprofit environmental marketing and messaging firm in Washington.


IT's all about presentation and the facts be damned.

When people struggle to pay their heating bills and they have to shovel 10 feet of snow it's hard to convince them the earth is getting warmer.

When people see Global Warming conferences being cancelled due to extreme snow or ice storms in April it's hard to get them to drink more kool-aid.

When the Democrats, led by the Messiah, enact the Great Global Warming Scam of carbon taxes or cap-and-swindle people are going to freak out.

The crazy part is that even leading Democrats admit that the cap-and-swindle is one BIG TAX and nothing more. Then when they hold hearings in Congress, Algore gets his ass handed to him by Gingrich even though the Democrats refused to let a scientist testify.

Hell, Gingrich had a hard time speaking because the Democrats kept talking over him.
You would think he had come out against gay marriage or something.

Watch it here;

http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=325713

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 Post subject: Re: Shhh ... don't call it 'Global Warming' anymore
PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 10:59 am 
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Most scientists not employed in the petrochemical industry agree the AVERAGE temperature of the earth has gone up in recent years. It's only about a degree and a half (F) so far, but it is the wrong way to move according to those in the know.
Climate change is a more accurate way to say it.

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 Post subject: Re: Shhh ... don't call it 'Global Warming' anymore
PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 11:36 am 
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The earth is changing, but it is always changing.

This is evidence of the exploitation. Worst case scenerio puts fear into people, making them easier to manipulate-for a while. Now, they will try to appear apologetic to be more politically correct. In doing this, they add scheme onto scheme.

This type of maneuvering has been present for a long time. I am sure it is a philosophy taught at the higher education facilities, and, when you investigate its origin, you can see how it became a vital segment in the itinerary of those seeking to control the masses to advance their own agendas.

Edward Bernays is considered one of the fathers of the field of public relations along with Ivy Lee. Combining the ideas of Gustave Le Bon and Wilfrid Trotter on crowd psychology with the psychoanalytical ideas of his uncle, Sigmund Freud, Bernays was one of the first to attempt to manipulate public opinion using psychology of the subconscious.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor ... Id=4612464

http://www.prwatch.org/prwissues/1999Q2/bernays.html

http://www.prmuseum.com/bernays/bernays_1915.html

He felt this manipulation was necessary in society, which he regarded as irrational and dangerous as a result of the "herd instinct" that Trotter had described. He was named one of the 100 most influential Americans of the 20th century by Life magazine.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... &plindex=0


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 Post subject: Re: Shhh ... don't call it 'Global Warming' anymore
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Posts like this are the reason that Republicans are rapidly becoming known as the party that hates it's grandchildren. Much of the disinformation that is being spread about climate change is being spread by the oil and coal oligarchies. The fact is that burning coal to produce electricity is the dirtiest way to generate power, polluting our air and degrading our lakes and oceans. Continuing to import $10 billion dollars worth of oil a month amounts to selling off America, piece by piece to rich foreign oil monopolies. It's really a shame that there are so many simple minded idiots like Happy Jack and Screech in this country who are opposed to any attempts to create a coherent energy policy that will lower pollution and create jobs as we build a green infrastructure.

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 Post subject: Re: Shhh ... don't call it 'Global Warming' anymore
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While little parrots like sporkles the pious have no understanding about global warming, it's causes, it's effects, or it's politics. They just toe the line like good little Disciples and parrot the latest talking points. It's much easier than actually thinking about an issue.

Poor little sporkles the pious benefits every single day from the burning of coal and his carbon assprint is HUGE. But like a good little liberal, he weeps and wrings his hands in abject sadness over the fate of the world but continues to reap the benefits of the very energy source he despises.

Typical.


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USMarine wrote:
While little parrots like sporkles the pious have no understanding about global warming, it's causes, it's effects, or it's politics. They just toe the line like good little Disciples and parrot the latest talking points. It's much easier than actually thinking about an issue.

Poor little sporkles the pious benefits every single day from the burning of coal and his carbon assprint is HUGE. But like a good little liberal, he weeps and wrings his hands in abject sadness over the fate of the world but continues to reap the benefits of the very energy source he despises.

Stop the Mountaintop Removal Coal Mining
In the modern post-industrial world, major corporations are very greedy. These companies prefer the cheapest means of work possible to increase the size of their wallets. Flattening mountains and ruining the surrounding area occurs in a process called mountaintop removal coal mining. The trees, animals, and unique natural landforms that once thrived on the mountain are destroyed. Post mountaintop removal makes nature lovers shed a tear. The reason for this crime on mother earth is to extract a dirty black substance that fuels the trend of increased pollution to our world.

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 Post subject: Re: Shhh ... don't call it 'Global Warming' anymore
PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2009 5:56 am 
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USMarine wrote:
While little parrots like sporkles the pious have no understanding about global warming, it's causes, it's effects, or it's politics. They just toe the line like good little Disciples and parrot the latest talking points. It's much easier than actually thinking about an issue.

Poor little sporkles the pious benefits every single day from the burning of coal and his carbon assprint is HUGE. But like a good little liberal, he weeps and wrings his hands in abject sadness over the fate of the world but continues to reap the benefits of the very energy source he despises.

Typical.


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sparks wrote:
Post mountaintop removal makes nature lovers shed a tear. The reason for this crime on mother earth is to extract a dirty black substance that fuels the trend of increased pollution to our world.


:crybaby:

And yet sporkles won't shut off his computer and save electricity.
He hates mother earth and all the little animals. Perhaps sporkles the pious should turn off his computer and get to work before the boss catches him.

Leave the serious discussions for the adults, sporkles.

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USMarine wrote:
sparks wrote:
Post mountaintop removal makes nature lovers shed a tear. The reason for this crime on mother earth is to extract a dirty black substance that fuels the trend of increased pollution to our world.


:crybaby:

And yet sporkles won't shut off his computer and save electricity.
He hates mother earth and all the little animals. Perhaps sporkles the pious should turn off his computer and get to work before the boss catches him.

Leave the serious discussions for the adults, sporkles.


When are you going to start a serious discussion without namecalling,Marine? I think we all can agree that computers improve our quality of life. Since no one is willing to revert back to the stone age, we need to find a way to generate electricity without destroying our air and water and land.

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USMarine wrote:
sparks wrote:
Post mountaintop removal makes nature lovers shed a tear. The reason for this crime on mother earth is to extract a dirty black substance that fuels the trend of increased pollution to our world.


:crybaby:

And yet sporkles won't shut off his computer and save electricity.
He hates mother earth and all the little animals. Perhaps sporkles the pious should turn off his computer and get to work before the boss catches him.

Leave the serious discussions for the adults, sporkles.

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/20 ... -footprint

And while the demand for electricity is a primary concern, a secondary result of the explosion of internet use is that the computer industry's carbon debt is increasing drastically. From having a relatively small impact just a few years ago, it is now leapfrogging other sectors like the airline industry that are more widely known for their negative environmental impact.

If sparkless really cared, he would turn his computer off and cancel his trip to Ireland next month!


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sparks wrote:
When are you going to start a serious discussion without namecalling,Marine?

sparks wrote:
It's really a shame that there are so many simple minded idiots like Happy Jack and Screech
Hey fruitcake,


I could go on for hours with the nonsense our resident troll has posted.

Sporkles the pious hates mother earth and all the little animals.

Typical.

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Screech wrote:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/20 ... -footprint

And while the demand for electricity is a primary concern, a secondary result of the explosion of internet use is that the computer industry's carbon debt is increasing drastically. From having a relatively small impact just a few years ago, it is now leapfrogging other sectors like the airline industry that are more widely known for their negative environmental impact.

If sparkless really cared, he would turn his computer off and cancel his trip to Ireland next month!


ZING..!!!!!!!!!!


Well done, Screech.

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Sparks is right on this issue, IMO. I think it is the right wing making this important issue political, not the left.
President Obama needs to push forward with his plans for a huge increase in solar and wind power.
As he noted, President Kennedy vowed to purt a man on the moon in the 1960's and it happened.
The USA CAN develop its renewable sources of energy if the profit motive is taken out of it.
It'
s time, people. Don't you folks have kids? What kind of world do you want them to inherit?

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freetime wrote:
Sparks is right on this issue, IMO. I think it is the right wing making this important issue political, not the left.



Once again, you are uninformed and....


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 Post subject: Re: Shhh ... don't call it 'Global Warming' anymore
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freetime wrote:
President Obama needs to push forward with his plans for a huge increase in solar and wind power.


Are you prepared to see your utility bills more than triple and your energy use rationed...?

Are you prepared to see food costs skyrocket..?

All in the name of an unproven fear-mongering lie...?

Man made global warming is a false doctrine.

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