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Author:  -={ARCLIGHT}=- [ Sun Aug 12, 2012 6:14 pm ]
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Obama Campaign Defends President's $700 Billion Cuts to Medicare

Author:  Moby Grape [ Mon Sep 10, 2012 9:19 am ]
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An diagnoses of ObamaCare in one amazing sentence


It's by Dr. Barbara Bellar, Illinois doctor, motor-scooter-riding animal lover, Army veteran and Republican attorney who's taking on a massive challenge of the Chicago political machine for a state Senate seat to combat the fiscal insanity in Barack Obama's adopted home state.


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"So let me get this straight,

we’re going to be gifted with a healthcare plan we are forced to purchase, and fined if we don’t,

which purportedly covers at least 10 million more people, without adding a single new doctor, but provides for 16,000 new IRS agents, written by a committee whose chairman says he doesn’t understand it,

passed by a congress that didn’t read it but exempted themselves from it,

and signed by a president who smokes,

with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn’t pay his taxes,

for which we will be taxed for four years before any benefits take effect,

by a government which has already bankrupted social security and medicare,

all to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese

and financed by a country that’s broke."

So, what the fu*ck could possibly go wrong?


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http://news.investors.com/politics-andr ... -video.htm

Author:  edge540 [ Mon Sep 10, 2012 9:41 am ]
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Quote:
It's by Dr. Barbara Bellar, Illinois doctor, motor-scooter-riding animal lover, Army veteran and Republican attorney who's taking on a massive challenge of the Chicago political machine for a state Senate seat to combat the fiscal insanity in Barack Obama's adopted home state.[/color]

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"So let me get this straight,"


which purportedly covers at least 10 million more people, without adding a single new doctor, but provides for 16,000 new IRS agents, written by a committee whose chairman says he doesn’t understand it,


No you fuking idiot you do not have anything straight.

Repeating radid right lies does not make anything straight.
http://www.factcheck.org/2010/03/irs-expansion/

Author:  Moby Grape [ Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:28 am ]
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edge540 wrote:

Repeating radid right lies


You must be referring to Obama the convention telling you straight to your face that there would be NO VOUCHERS for Medicare...

Author:  USMarine [ Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:45 am ]
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Enjoy...... :smt006


Quote:
Franchisors warn Obamacare will halve profits

September 13, 2012 |
The Washington Examiner

The International Franchise Association held a convention in Washington this week where most of the Radio Shack, Dunkin Donuts, Curves and other franchisers were grumbling about new federal regulations, especially the impact of Obamacare.

Most, said Atlanta Taco Bell and Kentucky Fried Chicken franchiser David Barr, presumed that the reports about how hard Obamacare will hit them were overblown. "They had their head in the sand," he told Secrets.

That is until he pulled out his powerpoint showing how funding Obamacare will cut his--and likely their--profits in half overnight. With simple math the small business folks understood, he spelled out that their only choice is to slash employee hours so they aren't eligible for company-paid health care or stop offering insurance and pay the $2,000 per employee fine.

Barr has 23 stores with 421 employees, 109 of whom are full-time. Of those, he provides 30 with health insurance. Barr said he pays 81 percent of their Blue Cross Blue Shield policy, or $4,073 of $5,028 for individuals, more for families, for a total bill of $129,000 a year. Employees pay $995.

Under Obamacare, however, he will have to provide health insurance for all 109 full-time workers, a cost of $444,000, or two and half times more than his current costs. That $315,000 increase is equal to just over half his annual profit, after expenses, or 1.5 percent of sales. As a result, he said, "I'm not paying $444,000."

Providing no insurance would result in a federal fine of $158,000, $29,000 more than he now spends but the lowest cost possible under the Obamacare law. So he now views that as his cap and he'll either cut worker hours or replace them with machines to get his costs down or dump them on the public health exchange and pay the fine. "Every business has a way to eliminate jobs," he said, "but that's not good for them or me."

But that's not all. His experience tells him that most low-wage workers he would have to cover under Obamacare won't take it because their $995 share is too high, meaning those the program was set up for won't see any benefit. And those who do will because they have major health issues, likely resulting in higher premiums to him.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/franchiso ... FMX5lFqR5J

Author:  -={ARCLIGHT}=- [ Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:46 pm ]
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Britain’s Socialized Health Care System “Writing Off” Patients With Cancer If They Are Over 75

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And yet liberals here in America want to import the same socialized system the Brits use.

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Pensioners with cancer are being written off as too old to treat, campaigners said yesterday.

They cited figures showing survival rates for British patients aged 75 and over are among the worst in Europe.

Young lung cancer sufferers are only 10 per cent more likely to die within five years than their continental counterparts.

But pensioners with the disease have 44 per cent less chance of survival.

The figure for stomach cancer – at 45 per cent – is even worse.

And Britons with prostate cancer are a fifth less likely to survive than Europeans if they are 85 and over.

Just 43 per cent live for five years, compared with up to 67 per cent over the Channel.

Patients in their 70s and 80s with kidney cancer have a 32 per cent survival rate, compared with 46-53 per cent in Europe.

Ciarán Devane, of Macmillan Cancer Support, which helped produce the figures, said: ‘It’s wrong to write off older people as too old for treatment. With a proper assessment and appropriate treatment, our research shows that many older cancer patients can live for a long time and can even be cured.

‘While it’s good news that so many older people are benefiting from treatment, many thousands more could live longer if our survival rates for over 65s matched those in comparable countries.

Author:  -={ARCLIGHT}=- [ Wed May 21, 2014 5:16 pm ]
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Author:  -={ARCLIGHT}=- [ Tue Apr 04, 2017 6:31 pm ]
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First US City Set To See Complete Obamacare Collapse

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This will be the first but not the last. Obamacare is a house of cards.



Knoxville, Tenn., could be the first city in the U.S. where Obamacare completely collapses, leaving tens of thousands of people without the option to buy a subsidized insurance policy.

Humana, the city’s only remaining insurance provider on its Obamacare exchange, announced it is exiting the market in 2018. If that happens, Knoxville citizens will be in a rough spot. Unless another insurance provider fills Humana’s place, some 40,000 people in the Knoxville area will likely be left without the option to purchase an Obamacare-subsidized insurance policy, CNN reports.

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