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 Post subject: Obamacareâ„¢ Support Falls To New Lows
PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 6:46 pm 
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Support for Health Care Plan Falls to New Low
Monday, November 23, 2009


Just 38% of voters now favor the health care plan proposed by President Obama and congressional Democrats. That’s the lowest level of support measured for the plan in nearly two dozen tracking polls conducted since June.

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 56% now oppose the plan.

Half the survey was conducted before the Senate voted late Saturday to begin debate on its version of the legislation. Support for the plan was slightly lower in the half of the survey conducted after the Senate vote.

Prior to this, support for the plan had never fallen below 41%. Last week, support for the plan was at 47%. Two weeks ago, the effort was supported by 45% of voters.

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Splits widen for Democrats over health reform

By Sarah O’Connor in Washington

Published: November 22 2009 18:44

President Barack Obama’s mission to reform US healthcare vaulted another legislative hurdle over the weekend, but the scramble to secure his own party’s votes sheds light on the messy compromises that may be needed to get it to the finish line.

Fissures between liberal and centrist Democrats cracked open on Sunday in the aftermath of a procedural vote, which paved the way for the estimated $848bn (€570bn, £514bn) draft Senate bill to be debated on the floor. Leaders hope there will be a vote on the bill by Christmas. If passed, the House and Senate versions will have to be mashed together.

If this weekend is anything to go by, it will not be a pretty process. All Democrats and Democrat-leaning independents voted to push the bill forward – creating a filibuster-proof majority of 60 – but some of those votes came far from quietly. A group of centrist Democrats, unhappy about elements of the bill such as a public insurance option, managed to wring concessions from the leadership in return for their acquiescence.

In what wags have already dubbed the “Louisiana Purchase”, Mary Landrieu was offered at least $100m in extra federal money for her state. Ben Nelson won the omission of a provision that would strip health insurers of their anti-trust exemption. Blanche Lincoln won more time.

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 Post subject: Re: Obamacareâ„¢ Support Falls To New Lows
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That goddamn bitch Pelosi and the rest of the PIECEOFSHIT democrats are now openly bribing politicians for their votes...

These fukkkers don't care what what the people want...they already have their pensions locked up tight...

All they have to do is make good on all the bribes THEY TOOK....and that means ramming this bullshit down the gullet of the American people.

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Long, bitter debate ahead for health care bill

Dec 1, 3:18 AM (ET)

By ERICA WERNER

WASHINGTON (AP) - Democrats called it a historic opportunity. Republicans called it a sham.

Long-awaited debate over President Barack Obama's health care overhaul kicked off in the Senate with lawmakers trading bitter partisan words over the measure to remake one-sixth of the U.S. economy.

The legislative struggle is expected to last for weeks in a test that pits GOP senators determined not to give ground against Senate Democrats determined to deliver on Obama's signature issue.

The 10-year, nearly $1 trillion legislation includes a first-time requirement for most Americans to carry insurance, greatly expands the Medicaid federal-state insurance program for the poor, and would require insurers to cover any paying customer regardless of their medical history or condition.

On Monday each side offered the first of what are likely to be dozens of amendments, with the measures seemingly designed as much to court a skeptical public as to reshape Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid's 2,074-page bill.

Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., attacked the legislation as a "monstrosity" that employs "Bernie Madoff accounting, Enron accounting" as he offered the first GOP amendment. McCain's amendment would strip out more than $400 billion in Medicare cuts to home health providers, hospitals, hospices and others - a pitch to seniors, who polls show have deep concerns about the legislation.

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MORE REPARATIONS...


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Obamacare: How the Unions are ''Getting Well''
Townhall, by Howard Rich


It’s already being called the “Second Louisiana Purchase,” but the sad truth is that a controversial payoff to U.S. Sen. Mary Landrieu’s home state of Louisiana is among the smallest of the thinly-disguised bribes and kickbacks that are being offered in Washington D.C. to secure passage of President Barack Obama’s socialized medicine proposal.

In fact, at “only” $300 million, this disgustingly transparent (and yet transparently successful) effort by Democratic Majority Leader Harry Reid to “negotiate” for Landrieu’s support on a key health care vote doesn’t hold a candle to the real graft that’s going on in our nation’s capital.

For example, you’d have to multiply that dollar amount dozens of times over to arrive at the $10 billion in so-called “reinsurance” money that has been tucked away for organized labor in the $2.6 trillion House bill.

What’s that “reinsurance” money for, exactly?


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Congress doesn't even want this bill.....

For themselves that is....


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ObamaCare Keeps Falling in the Polls
Wall Street Journal, by John Fund


The Senate's compromise bill on health care was announced on Wednesday to much fanfare. But there's not much there for moderate Democrats to write home about. It waters down a provision creating a "public option," but it also expands (to include people over 55) Medicare, a program already expected to go bankrupt in 2017.

The Senate bill is so unwieldy that the health-care system it will create will almost certainly break apart and force us into Canadian-style care. As Rep. Anthony Weiner (D., N.Y.) said in a statement, the Medicare expansion "would perhaps get us on the path to a single payer model." That grim prospect means there's still a chance to defeat or reshape the health-reform effort.

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Opponents of ObamaCare will be aided by polls showing that it is even less popular than HillaryCare was a year into the Clinton presidency. Back in December 1993, Gallup found that 47% of voters backed HillaryCare, with 32% opposed. Today, an average of health-care surveys at Pollster.com shows support for ObamaCare at 38.8%, with 51.4% against.

The difference is that in 1993 and 1994, ads pointing out the weaknesses of HillaryCare were ubiquitous on TV. This time the White House has bullied the health-care industry into silence or sullen support.


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BIG SCARE: OBAMA WARNS USA 'WILL GO BANKRUPT' WITHOUT HEALTH BILL

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Of course lapdog, braindead conservatives who vote republican have no problem with this.
Yep, more money for the republicans in congress & the insurance cartel to line their pockets with:
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Employer-Provided Health Care Costs Expected To Rise 10.5% In Next 12 Months

INDIANAPOLIS — Costs for employer-provided health plans are expected to rise more than 10 percent within the next 12 months, a jump workers may feel in their paychecks or through changes to their insurance coverage.

An aging population, rising costs and growing patient demand for services are among the reasons for the higher costs cited in an Aon Consulting report released Tuesday.

Aon Consulting, a subsidiary of Chicago-based Aon Corp., surveyed about 60 health insurers around the country earlier this year. The study found that, on average, insurers expect to pay out 10.5 percent more in claims costs in the next year – slightly less than the 10.6 percent increase forecast last year.

The expected increase doesn't necessarily mean the premiums employees pay will grow at the same clip. Actual increases for each insurer or plan can vary by such factors as plan design, geography or the general health of the people covered.

Some employers also might swallow the higher costs because workers this year already have had to contend with salary freezes, reductions and layoffs, said Tom Lerche, Aon Consulting's health care practice leader.

"There's one school of thought that says, 'Our employees have borne enough, let's minimize or not pass any costs along to the employee,'" he said.

However, others may ask workers to pay more through increased deductibles or copayments. They could make changes to the plans they offer, such as eliminating a traditional plan and offering a consumer-directed, high-deductible plan instead.

Lerche said most employers will consider it "an absolute business imperative" to lower any cost increases to mid- to low-single digit percentages.


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As opposed to a government take over of health care with rationed care and a government employee deciding if my family's health is "cost-effective" ...?

Not to mention a HUGE increase in taxes to Pay for OTHER people's health care...?

A 10% increase for my share of MY insurance.....no problem.

(SInce it won't affect Goofy540 why should he care..unless he's just trolling... :smt007 )

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December 16, 2009, 3:09 P.M.
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) on Wednesday afternoon withdrew his proposal to create a single-payer insurance system after Republicans compelled Senate clerks to spend hours reading his 767-page amendment to the health care bill as a way to slow down work on the legislation. Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) forced clerks to begin reading the amendment in the Republicans’ first attempt at stalling the health care bill.


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December 16, 2009, 3:09 P.M.
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) on Wednesday afternoon withdrew his proposal to create a single-payer insurance system after Republicans compelled Senate clerks to spend hours reading his 767-page amendment to the health care bill as a way to slow down work on the legislation. Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) forced clerks to begin reading the amendment in the Republicans’ first attempt at stalling the health care bill.


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Indeed.

And now Pelosi says no bill this year..... :smt006

And to top it off, it looks as though some Republicans are going to force a reading of the ENTIRE bill once the most transparent Congress in history lets everyone see it.

Time is on our side. Kill the bill.

:lol: :smt003

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Union pulls back on supporting bill

By Jeffrey Young - 12/16/09 12:37 PM ET
The Service Employees International Union (SEIU) backed out of an event with other organizations promoting the Senate healthcare reform bill Wednesday over concerns about changes made to the legislation to accommodate centrist Democrats.

The SEIU had planned to participate in a Capitol Hill press conference along with the AARP, the liberal advocacy group Families USA, Consumers Union and the American Cancer Society Action Network. As recently as Tuesday morning, the organizations distributed an advisory to the news media that included the SEIU.


The SEIU executive board will hold what Lodes described as an "emergency" meeting Wednesday night to decide how to move forward. "Right now, they don't have the information they need to make this decision," said Lodes, who added that the SEIU informed the other organizations on Tuesday they would not be joining the press conference.

The board meeting likely will not produce a final determination by the union about whether to support advancing the Senate healthcare bill, which not only lacks a public option and the Medicare buy-in but also would levy an excise tax on so-called Cadillac health insurance plans that some union members have, Lodes said.

"We will not have an absolute decision coming," largely because Reid has not released the final language of the healthcare bill, she said.

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/7253 ... enate-bill

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This whole 'follow the rules' thing doesn't seem to be working out too well for these people - hence, the rules must be changed!



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-cr ... 94085.html

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Posted: December 16, 2009 10:40 AM

Lieberman Betrayal Illustrates Why Senate Filibuster Rules Must Change

Senator Joe Lieberman's successful maneuver to eliminate any form of public option from the Senate health reform bill makes one thing perfectly clear: to pass the most important elements of the progressive agenda, the Senate must change its filibuster rules.
The current 60-vote requirement to cut off debate empowers a tiny minority of Senators to prevent up or down votes on measures that clearly have majority support in the Senate, and overwhelming support among the American people. It is a fundamentally undemocratic procedure that is now used regularly by the most entrenched economic interests in America to prevent change.
If it is not changed, it will severely limit the ability of President Obama and the Democratic leadership to enact the most important changes that are necessary to build a foundation for long-term prosperity in America.

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http://michellemalkin.com/2009/12/16/be ... lieberman/

Beclowned: Michael Moore threatens to boycott Connecticut over Lieberman



Kinda makes me wish Lieberman was my senator - that way, Michael 'Two Dinners' Moore would stay out of my state, too.

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SOLD: Sen. Nelson’s Bribe
BigGovernment, by Publicus

We’ll be blunt. The ‘health care reform’ legislation under consideration in the Senate is the most corrupt piece of legislation in our nation’s history.Yes, we understand that is a strong statement and there have been other abominations throughout our nation’s life. But never before did corrupt legislation threaten to radically and forever change the live’s of every American.

http://biggovernment.com/2009/12/19/sen-nelsons-bribe/


actually this guy was holding out until he was threatened by the democrats with closure of the SAC headquarters base in Omaha...

so this whore decided to take the money while it was still on the table..

can you believe it?

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