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 Post subject: Re: Obama's Katrina: A timeline of presidential delay
PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 7:40 am 
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But for the administration to falsely claim they were taking effective action from the start is a big fat lie!

No it's not. YOU lie:
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Limbaugh falsely claimed Obama waited eight days to deal with Gulf oil spill
April 30, 2010 5:42 pm

SUMMARY: Rush Limbaugh falsely claimed that President Obama "waited eight days" to respond to the Gulf oil spill. In fact, the White House immediately dispatched federal officials and the Coast Guard to work on the response to the spill.
Limbaugh falsely claims that "Obama didn't jump on this ASAP"
Limbaugh: Obama "waited eight days" to respond to spill. On the April 30 edition of his radio show, Limbaugh stated: "The problem here is that Obama didn't jump on this ASAP. He waited eight days, folks. There is no excuse for this. None." [Premiere Radio Networks' The Rush Limbaugh Show, 4/30/10]

White House immediately dispatched officials, Coast Guard to work on response
April 20: Oil rig explosion. An April 21 ABCNews.com article reported, "An overnight explosion in the Gulf of Mexico rocked the Deepwater Horizon oil rig off the Louisiana coast, sending spectacular bursts of flame into the sky. The fires were still raging today."

April 21: Deputy Secretary of Interior, Coast Guard dispatched to region. An April 22 White House statement noted that following a briefing with President Obama, Department of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, Coast Guard Commandant Adm. Thad Allen, Department of Interior Secretary Ken Salazar, EPA Deputy Administrator Bob Perciasepe, and FEMA Administrator Craig Fugate, "Deputy Secretary of the Interior David Hayes was dispatched to the region yesterday to assist with coordination and response." The Coast Guard announced that four units were responding to the fire, with additional units en route.

Search and rescue efforts begin for 11 missing. An initial focus of the response was the search for 11 missing crewmembers. The search was called off April 23.
CNN.com: "The U.S. Coast Guard launched a major search effort." An April 22 CNN.com article reported:
The U.S. Coast Guard launched a major search effort Wednesday for 11 people missing after a "catastrophic" explosion aboard an oil rig in the Gulf of Mexico engulfed the drilling platform in flames.

Another 17 people were injured -- three critically -- in the blast aboard the Deepwater Horizon, which occurred about 10 p.m. Tuesday. The rig was about 52 miles southeast of Venice, Louisiana, said Coast Guard Senior Chief Petty Officer Mike O'Berry. As of late afternoon Wednesday as many as six firefighting vessels were working to contain the massive fire caused by the explosion.

"It obviously was a catastrophic event," O'Berry said.

BP confirms U.S. Coast Guard was "leading the emergency response." In an April 21 press release, British Petroluem stated that it was "working closely with Transocean and the U.S. Coast Guard, which is leading the emergency response, and had been offering its help -- including logistical support." A separate April 21 press release from drilling contractor Transocean also stated: "Transocean's Emergency and Family Response Teams are working with the U.S. Coast Guard and lease operator BP Exploration & Production, Inc. to care for all rig personnel and search for missing rig personnel."
April 23: Coast Guard "focused on mitigating the impact of the product currently in the water." On April 23, the Coast Guard stated:

The Department of the Interior, MMS [the U.S. Minerals Management Service], and the Coast Guard continue to support the efforts of the responsible parties to secure all potential sources of pollution. Both federal agencies have technical teams in place overseeing the proposals by BP and Transocean to completely secure the well. Until that has occurred and all parties are confident the risk of additional spill is removed, a high readiness posture to respond will remain in place.

Although the oil appears to have stopped flowing from the well head, Coast Guard, BP, Transocean, and MMS remain focused on mitigating the impact of the product currently in the water and preparing for a worst-case scenario in the event the seal does not hold. Visual feed from deployed remotely operated vehicles with sonar capability is continually monitored in an effort to look for any crude oil which still has the potential to emanate from the subsurface well.

"From what we have observed yesterday and through the night, we are not seeing any signs of release of crude in the subsurface area. However we remain in a 'ready to respond' mode and are working in a collaborative effort with BP, the responsible party, to prepare for a worst-case scenario," Landry stated early Friday morning.

Axelrod: "We had the Coast Guard on the scene almost immediately" and "the deputy secretary of the Interior was on the ground the next day." White House adviser David Axelrod discussed the administration's response to the oil spill during an appearance on the April 30 edition of ABC's Good Morning America.
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 Post subject: Re: Obama's Katrina: A timeline of presidential delay
PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 7:58 am 
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leftwing horseshit

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 Post subject: Re: Obama's Katrina: A timeline of presidential delay
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No it's not. YOU lie:


Limbaugh falsely claimed Obama waited eight days to deal with Gulf oil spill
April 30, 2010 5:42 pm

SUMMARY: Rush Limbaugh falsely claimed that President Obama "waited eight days" to respond to the Gulf oil spill. In fact, the White House immediately dispatched federal officials and the Coast Guard to work on the response to the spill.



here is the answer from a dude who appears has the experience to make this call

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Former NOAA oil spill cleanup boss says Obama waited too long in Gulf disaster
Washington Examiner, by Mark Tapscott


Why didn't federal officials implement an oil spill clean up plan they've had on the books since 1994 as soon as possible after crude began pumping into the Gulf of Mexico following the explosion and sinking of BP's Deepwater Horizon drilling platform 53 miles south of Louisiana in the Gulf of Mexico? The Mobile Register reports that Ron Gouget, who formerly managed the oil spill cleanup department of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, as well as a similar unit for the state of Louisiana, is criticizing the Obama White House's failure to act

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 Post subject: Re: Obama's Katrina: A timeline of presidential delay
PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 8:11 am 
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right wing horseshit
The sad reality is there no such thing as a "oil spill clean up plan."

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 Post subject: Re: Obama's Katrina: A timeline of presidential delay
PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 8:15 am 
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edge540 wrote:
right wing horseshit
The sad reality is there no such thing as a "oil spill clean up plan."


and sadly there's no Hurricane eradication plan

Obama milked Katrina to the hilt and used it against Bush.

Now it's his turn to take the heat.

unless he's too big of a pussy.

I have yet to see this wuss ever stand up and act like a man in the first place...he's nothing but a swamp runnin coward.

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 Post subject: Re: Obama's Katrina: A timeline of presidential delay
PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 8:25 am 
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Moby Grape wrote:

Now it's his turn to take the heat

So sorry but that's rabid right wishful thinking..... BP & the rig owner are taking the heat. From the conservative WSJ:
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BP's Worsening Spill Crisis Undermines CEO's Reforms
BUSINESS MAY 3, 2010
By GUY CHAZAN
LONDON— Tony Hayward thought he had finally slain all of BP PLC's demons. Now a new one has reared up, and it's the size of Puerto Rico.

BP's chief executive is coming under mounting pressure over the vast spill spreading in the Gulf of Mexico, which was caused when a giant drilling rig there caught fire and sank, with the loss of 11 crew members. The oil, still spewing from the well on the ocean floor, threatens to blacken the Louisana shoreline, and BP's reputation.

From the moment Mr. Hayward learned of the disaster—in a 7:24 a.m. phone call over breakfast on April 21—he has been faced with the reality that this incident could erase his rehabilitation of the British oil giant.

On Sunday, President Barack Obama, who has said BP would be held ultimately responsible for the costs of the clean-up, arrived in Louisiana to hold crisis talks with local officials. Strong winds hurt clean-up efforts as the slick drifted closer to the Louisiana coast.

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When Mr. Hayward took over BP's leadership from John Browne three years ago this week, the company was at one of the lowest points in its history: badly run, accident-prone and accused in the aftermath of a deadly explosion at its Texas City refinery of putting profits before safety. Mr. Hayward turned BP around, boosting production, cutting costs and significantly reducing on-the-job injuries. Last month, he was confident enough to talk of an irreversible "change of culture" at BP.

None of that seems to matter now, as BP heads into the crisis grinder that has chewed up big names like Toyota and Goldman Sachs. And with about 5,000 barrels of oil leaking from the damaged well each day, Mr. Hayward knows it.

In an interview at BP's St. James' Square headquarters, Mr. Hayward, 52 years old, concedes the disaster off Louisiana will "undoubtedly" overshadow his achievements as CEO. BP's share price has fallen 12% since the crisis started.

He expressed confidence BP will prevail. "We are going to defend the beaches," he says. "We will fix this."

Federal and state officials are starting to gripe about BP's response. Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal expressed "concerns that BP's current resources are not adequate" to stop the leak, protect the coast and clean up the mess. The British oil giant also faces fierce criticism on Capitol Hill and a slew of investigations by federal agencies.
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 Post subject: Re: Obama's Katrina: A timeline of presidential delay
PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 8:52 am 
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edge540 wrote:
right wing horseshit
The sad reality is there no such thing as a "oil spill clean up plan."


then they are bigger morons than I thought.

but you and I both know there are ''oil spill clean up plan''

The man worked for NOAA.

he cleaned up oil spills.

he would know.

or are you going to tell us you hang out with meteorological genius's and marine biologists at the VFW too?

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 Post subject: Re: Obama's Katrina: A timeline of presidential delay
PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 9:01 am 
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edge540 wrote:
right wing horseshit
The sad reality is there no such thing as a "oil spill clean up plan."


Yes there is.


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 Post subject: Re: Obama's Katrina: A timeline of presidential delay
PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 9:02 am 
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Moby Grape wrote:
edge540 wrote:
right wing horseshit
The sad reality is there no such thing as a "oil spill clean up plan."


then they are bigger morons than I thought.

but you and I both know there are ''oil spill clean up plan''


This idiot says the oil should have been burned off.
They tried that & it didn't work. So much for the "oil spill clean up plan."

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 Post subject: Re: Obama's Katrina: A timeline of presidential delay
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edge540 wrote:
right wing horseshit
The sad reality is there no such thing as a "oil spill clean up plan."


Yes there is.

Then why isn't BP implementing your "oil spill clean up plan"?

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 Post subject: Re: Obama's Katrina: A timeline of presidential delay
PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 9:30 am 
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edge540 wrote:
mrbsmom wrote:
edge540 wrote:
right wing horseshit
The sad reality is there no such thing as a "oil spill clean up plan."


Yes there is.

Then why isn't BP implementing your "oil spill clean up plan"?


South Korean rig contracted by BP I guess...

You're the expert, you tell us.

Me?..I think it's happening just the way Obama wants it to happen.

this loser has been nothing but one disaster after another since he infected the White House.

This pos has intentionally fÊŠcked up everything he touches in order to federalize it.

now he's going after big oil.

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 Post subject: Re: Obama's Katrina: A timeline of presidential delay
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BP says it's not their fault. This is unprecedented and they will pay for the clean up. :?

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 Post subject: Re: Obama's Katrina: A timeline of presidential delay
PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 11:17 am 
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edge540 wrote:
right wing horseshit
The sad reality is there no such thing as a "oil spill clean up plan."


Right! So how can Obama possibly have put a plan into action from the beginning? See? You lied.

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 Post subject: Re: Obama's Katrina: A timeline of presidential delay
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edge540 wrote:
right wing horseshit
The sad reality is there no such thing as a "oil spill clean up plan."




http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/05/03/subsea-oil-recovery-spill-bp-gulf-mexico/

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 Post subject: Re: Obama's Katrina: A timeline of presidential delay
PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 11:28 am 
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and sadly there's no Hurricane eradication plan


Yes there is! It involves US companies paying money to 3rd world countries via CCX traded credits and then when fully implemented the weather will be at peace because we gave away money to impoverished non-polluting nations. It's better known as the Cap & Tax Smoke plan. Gore & Obama have been working since at least 2006 to save the world under this scheme along with a few of their best buds from Goldman, who of course only coincidentally prosper financially from this selfless humanitarian effort. :smt003

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