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 Post subject: Re: OBAMA JOBS
PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:25 pm 
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Bush Derangement Syndrome.

The BLS DOES NOT include people who have stopped looking for work. This way they get to cherry pick whatever number they want from this dwindling pool of enployment seekers. (within reason so that the useful idiots will easily suck up to it)

And it works! Just look at the useful idiots gushing at the chance to tell us a recovery is on the way!!!

I wouldn't trust any numbers coming from this worthless lying administration.

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 Post subject: Re: OBAMA JOBS
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I wouldn't trust any numbers coming from this worthless lying administration.

The numbers do not come from this administraion. Here ya go dumfuk:
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Keith Hall is the current Commissioner of the Bureau of Labor Statistics, a unit of the Department of Labor. Hall was nominated by President George W. Bush to become the BLS Commissioner in September 2007 and was confirmed by the Senate in December 2007. Hall has also worked for the Department of Commerce, Department of Treasury, the International Trade Commission, and the Executive Office of the White House.


However that does matter because conservative republican racists believe only what they they want to believe because they're stupid & ignorant.

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 Post subject: Re: OBAMA JOBS
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Location: Stupid Liberals!
Jobless claims rise above 400,000

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 Post subject: Re: OBAMA JOBS
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Insane Angry Ed540 wrote:

However that does matter because conservative republican racists believe only what they they want to believe because they're stupid & ignorant.


Angry Ed wraps up another message board week the exact same way he begins it and maintains it at every point in between. Just a broken fukkiin record from a broken old man.


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 Post subject: Re: OBAMA JOBS
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However that does matter because conservative republican racists believe only what they they want to believe because they're stupid & ignorant.


I didn't believe in that Hope and Change bullshit.

you did.

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 Post subject: Re: OBAMA JOBS
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And the left continues to put its insanity on display for all to see...

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Hoyer: Job Creating Keystone
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Cybercast News Service, by Matt Cover


House Democratic Whip Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) said that the Keystone XL oil pipeline project would only create five to six thousand jobs and that Republican efforts to force a vote on the project were a “stick in the eye” of Democrats who oppose it.

“This is five thousand to six thousand jobs,” Hoyer said at his weekly press briefing on Tuesday. “This is a stick in the eye [for Democrats].”

CNSNews.com asked Hoyer how Democrats could oppose the Keystone project after they had included numerous infrastructure and energy projects in their 2009 stimulus law and after President Barack Obama had called for more private-sector investment in job creation.


http://cnsnews.com/news/article/hoyer-j ... -democrats

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 Post subject: Re: OBAMA JOBS
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House Democratic Whip Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) said that the Keystone XL oil pipeline project would only create five to six thousand jobs

100% correct
Fox Still Pushing Discredited Keystone XL Pipeline Jobs Claims

December 08, 2011 1:54 pm ET —

Fox anchor Martha MacCallum is clinging to the discredited claim that the Keystone XL pipeline would create at least 20,000 jobs. In fact, even the pipeline owner acknowledges that the total jobs created by the pipeline would be far fewer, and an independent report has found that the project could actually destroy more jobs than it creates through higher fuel costs and environmental damage.

http://mediamatters.org/research/201112080014

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 Post subject: Re: OBAMA JOBS
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edge540 wrote:
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House Democratic Whip Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) said that the Keystone XL oil pipeline project would only create five to six thousand jobs

100% correct
Fox Still Pushing Discredited Keystone XL Pipeline Jobs Claims

December 08, 2011 1:54 pm ET —

Fox anchor Martha MacCallum is clinging to the discredited claim that the Keystone XL pipeline would create at least 20,000 jobs. In fact, even the pipeline owner acknowledges that the total jobs created by the pipeline would be far fewer, and an independent report has found that the project could actually destroy more jobs than it creates through higher fuel costs and environmental damage.

http://mediamatters.org/research/201112080014


I guess that depends on who you want to believe.
Do you want to believe the marxist views or this:

http://www.examiner.com/political-buzz- ... 0-000-jobs

OR do you want to believe Obama who says extending unemployment benefits will create more jobs than the keystone pipeline? Hmmmm... :smt006

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 Post subject: Re: OBAMA JOBS
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I guess that depends on who you want to believe.

Well no, actually it depends if you're a low information, gullible, misinformed, ignorant conservative. The CEO of the pipeline ADMITS they lied. Conservative morons like you still believe the nonsense on Fox "News" enjoy :smt006
TransCanada Admits It Lied About Keystone XL Jobs

Proponents of the Keystone XL–an oil pipeline that would cut a swath across dozens of rivers, streams, and America’s largest source of fresh water–claim that the number of domestic jobs created by the project offset its immense environmental risks. :smt006

But in a recent report by the Washington Post, the company behind the Keystone XL admitted that it intentionally inflated estimates of the number of American jobs the pipeline would create. :smt006

The 20,000 jobs involved in pipeline construction? A fabrication supported by misleading mathematics. The 250,000 indirect jobs? A number based on one oil-industry funded study that counted jobs for “dancers, choreographers and speech therapists,” according to the Post. :smt006

TransCanada CEO Russ Girling said Friday that the 13,000 figure was “one person, one year,” meaning that if the construction jobs lasted two years, the number of people employed in each of the two years would be 6,500. That brings the company’s number closer to the State Department’s; State says the project would create 5,000 to 6,000 construction jobs, a figure that was calculated by its contractor Cardno Entrix.
Read more:
http://www.care2.com/causes/transcanada ... z1gc72IMab
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So why does Fox "News" STILL lie? :smt006

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 Post subject: Re: OBAMA JOBS
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You don't see the irony here? They didn't actually lie at all. They just used Obama's formula for jobs saved or created. ;)

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 Post subject: Re: OBAMA JOBS
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I mean WTF?...this pipeline means jobs, it means energy and is just plain good old fashioned common sense.


Obama is just creating another manufactured crisis for his benefit and the useful idiots continue to lap this sh!t up off his shoes as usual.

DUMBO knows this pipeline is going to happen one way or another and he just wants himself and his cronies to get a piece of this pie when it does. If you think for one second this worthless ass hole is concerned with the environment you are an idiot. He's just jockeying the field to get the biggest piece he can.

He's fooling nobody. well, except edge of course.

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 Post subject: Re: OBAMA JOBS
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edge540 wrote:
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House Democratic Whip Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) said that the Keystone XL oil pipeline project would only create five to six thousand jobs

100% correct
Fox Still Pushing Discredited Keystone XL Pipeline Jobs Claims

December 08, 2011 1:54 pm ET —

Fox anchor Martha MacCallum is clinging to the discredited claim that the Keystone XL pipeline would create at least 20,000 jobs. In fact, even the pipeline owner acknowledges that the total jobs created by the pipeline would be far fewer, and an independent report has found that the project could actually destroy more jobs than it creates through higher fuel costs and environmental damage.

http://mediamatters.org/research/201112080014


I dunno edge, from what I've been reading I don't think any of them do either. Even the tree hugging Cornell report is full of would's and could's. I wonder if jobs created out at BP from Canada's tar oil sands are included?


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In July, the Canadian Energy Research Institute, a nonprofit research group, said Alberta oil sands supported more than 80,000 U.S. jobs last year and could support up to 600,000 in 2035. One of the mining trucks used in oil sands extraction, a Caterpillar 797, has an Indiana-built engine and a cab that was fabricated and installed in Illinois.

http://www.indianaeconomicdigest.net/ma ... leID=62707





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Bemidji, Minn. — A controversial new oil pipeline called the Alberta Clipper has created thousands of construction jobs across northern Minnesota and is pumping millions of dollars into communities all along the pipeline route.

http://minnesota.publicradio.org/displa ... e/?refid=0


ALBERTA CLIPPER?

That is something that Obama passed two years ago for the same reasons the republicans want the Keystone Pipeline deal. That makes the real liar in this non other than Obama. Just what is this snake oil salesman up to..votes...campaign funds.... :smt006

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After considerable review and evaluation, on August 20, 2009, the Department issued a Presidential Permit to Enbridge Energy, Limited Partnership for the Alberta Clipper pipeline. In evaluating the Enbridge application, the Department worked in consultation with all relevant agencies and parties and with extensive public and stakeholder participation and outreach.

The Department found that the addition of crude oil pipeline capacity between Canada and the United States will advance a number of strategic interests of the United States. These included increasing the diversity of available supplies among the United States’ worldwide crude oil sources in a time of considerable political tension in other major oil producing countries and regions; shortening the transportation pathway for crude oil supplies; and increasing crude oil supplies from a major non-Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries producer. Canada is a stable and reliable ally and trading partner of the United States, with which we have free trade agreements which augment the security of this energy supply.

Approval of the permit sends a positive economic signal, in a difficult economic period, about the future reliability and availability of a portion of United States’ energy imports, and in the immediate term, this shovel-ready project will provide construction jobs for workers in the United States.

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2009/aug/128164.htm

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 Post subject: Re: OBAMA JOBS
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Obama is just creating another manufactured crisis for his benefit and the useful idiots continue to lap this sh!t up off his shoes as usual.

DUMBO knows this pipeline is going to happen one way or another and he just wants himself and his cronies to get a piece of this pie when it does. If you think for one second this worthless ass hole is concerned with the environment you are an idiot. He's just jockeying the field to get the biggest piece he can.

He's fooling nobody. well, except edge of course.

Here we go again, mr. grape making up crap & lying as usual....or just being plain stupid & ignorant which of course is nothing new for partisan conservatives.
This might be his biggest steaming pile of crap ever.
The pipeline was put on hold by the people of Nebraska, some of the most conservative republicans in the country.
Imagine that, they're more concerned about their drinking water than billions in profits for the Koch brothers.

Does mr. grape EVER get embarrassed?

nah

Heineman’s Keystone Pipeline Victory Shows His Red State Environmentalism
Many Americans hadn’t heard of Nebraska Governor Dave Heineman until his sparsely populated state blocked a $7 billion Canadian oil pipeline.

“We’ve certainly been getting a lot of national attention we don’t normally get,” said Heineman, a 63-year-old Republican.

In a series of maneuvers, Heineman managed to delay construction of the 1,661-mile (2,673-kilometer) Keystone XL pipeline -- and prompt its owner, Calgary-based TransCanada Corp. (TRP), to reroute the 15 percent that was to cross Nebraska and its environmentally sensitive Sandhills region.

A conservative stronghold that hasn’t been carried by a Democratic presidential candidate since 1964, Nebraska joined environmentalists, celebrities and scientists in opposing the pipeline. They expressed concern that an oil leak could foul the Sandhills or the Ogallala Aquifer that runs underneath and provides drinking water to 1.5 million people.


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-2 ... alism.html

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Warren Buffett, the Keystone Pipeline and Crony Capitalism

A decades-long crusade by the environmental left to convince us that oil is evil, unsustainable, and destroying our planet has yet to accomplish its goal of eliminating oil as a fuel, but it has succeeded in making oil damned expensive. However, new technologies for the extraction and transport of previously unrecoverable oil promise to reverse that trend.

One such project is the TransCanada Keystone XL pipeline, which will transport bitumen from the oil sands of Alberta to the refineries and ports along the Gulf coast. It will also feature a spur that will pick up oil from the vast Bakken oil formation in North Dakota. The benefit to our economy and energy security is obvious.

A year after the election of Obama, Warren Buffett bought a giant railroad, the Burlington Northern Santa Fe. The BNSF has more than 32,000 miles of trackand right-of-way in this nation, running from the west coast and through the agricultural heartland of America. It is also hauls coal from the mines in Montana and Wyoming and is the railroad with the best existing north-south infrastructure. In fact, it's quite well-situated to perform precisely the task for which TransCanada has proposed to build a pipeline.

Should the pipeline fail, the oil will still be extracted, but it will then be transported by rail, and Mr. Buffett, thanks to the efforts of his friend Mr. Holland, will be uniquely situated to derive a fortune from that business, as well as enhance the value of his holdings in Conoco-Phillips petroleum. Is it possible that Warren Buffett's assistance to Obama in both policy and public relations lately may be his way of trying to tip the regulatory scales in his favor? After all, nothing says "I love you" to a Democrat better than a public plea for more taxes.

In any case, the opposition to the pipeline is not only tainted, but intellectually and scientifically bankrupt. BOLD Nebraska are correct when they screech that there is an agenda being served here, but it is not big oil, environmentalism, or even green energy; it appears to be garden-variety crony capitalism, an Obama administration specialty.

http://www.drudge.com/news/150494/warre ... peline-and

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Obama is just creating another manufactured crisis for his benefit and the useful idiots continue to lap this sh!t up off his shoes as usual.

DUMBO knows this pipeline is going to happen one way or another and he just wants himself and his cronies to get a piece of this pie when it does. If you think for one second this worthless ass hole is concerned with the environment you are an idiot. He's just jockeying the field to get the biggest piece he can.

He's fooling nobody. well, except edge of course.

Here we go again, mr. grape making up crap & lying as usual....or just being plain stupid & ignorant which of course is nothing new for partisan conservatives.
This might be his biggest steaming pile of crap ever.
The pipeline was put on hold by the people of Nebraska, some of the most conservative republicans in the country.
Imagine that, they're more concerned about their drinking water than billions in profits for the Koch brothers.

Does mr. grape EVER get embarrassed?

nah

Heineman’s Keystone Pipeline Victory Shows His Red State Environmentalism
Many Americans hadn’t heard of Nebraska Governor Dave Heineman until his sparsely populated state blocked a $7 billion Canadian oil pipeline.

“We’ve certainly been getting a lot of national attention we don’t normally get,” said Heineman, a 63-year-old Republican.

In a series of maneuvers, Heineman managed to delay construction of the 1,661-mile (2,673-kilometer) Keystone XL pipeline -- and prompt its owner, Calgary-based TransCanada Corp. (TRP), to reroute the 15 percent that was to cross Nebraska and its environmentally sensitive Sandhills region.

A conservative stronghold that hasn’t been carried by a Democratic presidential candidate since 1964, Nebraska joined environmentalists, celebrities and scientists in opposing the pipeline. They expressed concern that an oil leak could foul the Sandhills or the Ogallala Aquifer that runs underneath and provides drinking water to 1.5 million people.


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-2 ... alism.html


They agreed to move it. So whats the hold up? :shock:

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On Nov. 14, TransCanada announced it supports proposed legislation within the State of Nebraska to move the Keystone XL pipeline project forward. If passed, this legislation, introduced the same day in the State legislature, will ensure a pipeline route will be developed in Nebraska that avoids the Sandhills.


http://www.transcanada.com/keystone.html

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